An Apology To Amanna

BRK » 18 March 2007 » In PvP, Strategy »

So BRK was cruising around Adventures in Azeroth and in a nice post about druid tricks of the trade, Amanna asked “…post your favorite Druid tip or trick that you use on a regular basis to give yourself a little edge.” And BRK did; he gave a nice tip on how a hunter can get some quick downtime during a battle with a druid.

Of course, she was looking for ways to help druids, not kill them. She replied that she should come here and give druid tips on killing hunters. But she didn’t know any.

Awww…

So, in an attempt to preserve the peace amongst my favorite bloggers, I’m going to make it up to her, and all our druid friends. I’m going to tell you…

How a Druid Should Attack a Hunter

OMG BRK! You scream. Ya can’t give away our dirty little secrets, or most treasured tricks, and our deep-seated fears. It’s not right! It’s not natural! It’s indwarfane (inhumane for dwarves, right?) and you’ll get a nasty letter from the Happy Hunting Ground Committee on Excellence and Silence.

Pfft.

So, a little mystique shall be revealed… let’s analyze.

Situation Numero Uno

Hunter is standing still, pet at his side. Assuming he’s not AFK, he’s guarding something. His radar is up and he’s watching for humanoid enemies approaching. He has a Freeze Trap at his feet, slightly behind him. He has a Flare up. His pet is on defensive. Since he is tracking humanoids, he cannot track beasts. Go cat/bear form immediately. Really experienced hunters have a macro so that they switch between track humanoid and track beast every 15 seconds or so. Very few hunters actually do this, though. Assume the muffin-head you’re watching doesn’t.

Do not attack from behind. You’ll be trapped, he’ll get to range, and you’re dead.

Do not attack from the front. He’ll see you before you strike, send pet, Scattershot or Intimidation, and same dead druid result.

Attack from the side, and usually the right side is free from pets.

If he has Bestial Wrath, your cat-form doesn’t stand a chance. You must go Bear and hope to outlast his 18 seconds of IWIN Button. If you can survive the Bestial Wrath, you must then keep him in melee range. Entangling Root is great, just don’t use it before Bestial Wrath is up.

Any decent hunter can kite bear-form, so now you switch to cat; you have to kill the hunter as quickly as possible. Watch for Wing Clip and more traps, especially Snake traps. You can use your Alliance/Horde trinket to break free of his Frost trap, but the snakes will drop Crippling Poison on you.

Situation Numero Dos

Hunter is running, pet beside him. He is hunting something or someone, and his pet is on passive. Watch his behavior. He is not dropping traps, he is not dropping Flares. If he is killing Talbuks, he is hunting animals for a quest or grinding money, or whatever. He is therefore tracking beasts. Stay in humanoid form and attack with Nature damage so his mail armor cannot mitigate it. Get as much damage in as possible before you have to go Bear to survive Bestial Wrath, or Cat if he is a Marksman.

Marksman are more deadly in bursts than Beastmasters, especially if you just stand there. A marksman’s burst damage can be tremendous. Allow a Marksman with 2400 RAP to drop an Aimed Shot on you non-Bear, and he will slam a 4000-damage crit faster than you can say, “Elune be praised”. It’ll be over before it’s begun. Go cat-form and get in his grill as fast as you can, remember that Feral Charge is your friend.

Conclusions

Remember the Hunter Dead Zone. Between 3 and 8 yards distance, a Hunter has only two attacks: his pet and Scattershot. If you can Hibernate the pet and Root the Hunter, just sit in this dead zone and blast away with whatever you’ve got.

All hunters will use Concussive Shot to try to get to range. Shift forms to break it.

If you see a hunter casting Fear Beast, shift to humanoid form or be ready to trinket out of the Fear.

If you allow the hunter to get to range, you will die. Period. In my experience, this is true of every class if similarly geared to the hunter.

Cat-form dps out-performs hunter melee damage by a long shot. Bear-form damage mitigation will allow you to survive any melee attacks a hunter can launch. If you can stay in melee range, you will win.

Please keep in mind that BRK does not play a druid. If we messed up a name or talent, we apologize. These tactics are from my personal experience in PvP and dueling druids, and not necessarily the Best Way according to druid experts.

Well Amanna, how’s that?

Comments

13 Responses to “An Apology To Amanna”

  1. Anonymous on March 19th, 2007 12:43 am

    Mrs Damh says…

    Happy Birthday, Damh!!

  2. Amanna on March 19th, 2007 2:02 am

    Don’t you just hate those forum trollers that have to get in the first reply??!!??

    JUST KIDDING Mrs Damh! (*quickly casts Hibernate - I don’t think I’d want to get her angry. Something just tells me…)

    Damh, I’m honored. Or is that Damn, I’m honored. Either way - I appreciate the post, but no apology was necessary. When I said I was going to post how to kill a hunter but didn’t know how, I meant it as irony as:

    1) I don’t PvP, and
    2) You can’t kill a hunter, they kill you.

    I’m sure my fellow Druids are up in arms right now, and we ARE an awesome class, but let’s get serious mates. We may be 3 or 4 animals rolled up into one, but we can only fight with one at a time. These guys get to shoot bows/guns AND attack with an animal. It’s like… like… not fair or something.

    All kidding aside, Amanna appreciates the post and throws a stack of Sporeling Snacks to BRK to show there are no hard feelings.

    Now could you just tell BRK to stop licking my toes? It’s kind of creepy how he licks his lips when he does it.

  3. Anonymous on March 19th, 2007 2:36 am

    I’m going to be nice…was going to leave a tip “well basted with gun powder druids make a well rounded snack for your pet”

    adrus

  4. Anonymous on March 19th, 2007 2:37 am

    p.s. HAPPY BIRTHDAY

    adrus

  5. lui on March 19th, 2007 3:36 am

    Well, I was thinking it might’ve been out of place here but since I see others doing it…

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

    (I’ll have to try those tactics on hunters later. :P)

  6. Damh on March 19th, 2007 4:31 am

    Thank you for all the birthday wishes. /blush

    Amanna, um… BRK likes toes, he especially appreciates the French pedicure.

    But what has me stumped is why you’re even close enough to BRK to permit the actual act of toe-licking. He’s not hard to miss; BRK is an 800-pound, 10-foot long purple male cat…

    Male cat…

    Wait a minute? Amanna, are you in cat-form? Are you teasing BRK with your female feline wiles?!

    OMG! It’s the oldest trick in the warlock-book! She’s seducing my pet! It’s a new druid PvP tactic!

    OMG!

  7. Huma on March 19th, 2007 12:28 pm

    Fist of all: Happy Birthday! =)

    Secound:, Im not an advertiser, and most of all I’m not a druid, but you should check my other favorite blgger, Daryl at wow-tips.blogspot.com. He as an entry about endless feral combat..

    As from hunter’s perspective I personally s**k against druids.. I just love the way they sneak on my back why questing, and tracking human.. instead of giving them tips, lets just say: nerf druids, and impr. wing clip to them ^_^

  8. Amanna on March 19th, 2007 12:28 pm

    And you thought we were easy prey!

    Here kitty, kitty, kitty…

  9. Damh on March 19th, 2007 12:54 pm

    Hobbes… Hobbes.

    Hobbes!

    Hobbes come back here. Now!

    How am I supposed to do Karazan now? Amanna stole my cat.

    {scratches head}

    She must have some really spectacular toes, though.

  10. taudok on March 19th, 2007 1:19 pm

    Let me start off by sending my best wishes for your birthday!
    Now as for hunters vs druids! There’s really not much to say, hunters win end of story! If it’s a duel, hunters turn on Aspect of the Wild (our own nerf to some of their nature dmg), and if you’re BM spec slap on Bestial Wrath ASAP, if you’re MM like i’ve recently become watch for the shift to human form when they need to heal and slap on a silence! works every time. I even wanted to try out some tactics the other day and dueled a druid WITHOUT my pet. Needless to say the fight was much longer and many many traps, CC shots, scatter shots, and wing clips were laid out. and in the end it was always the Night Elf druid on his knees begging. :) so for all of you who were shocked by BRK giving out hints to druids, don’t sweat it, because after all they need all the help they can get if they ever hope to get us down to 25% life! Then again for all you druids out there just announce that you’re looking for a Survival spec’d huntard and you might win more than you lose :)
    no hard feelings amanda!

  11. Anonymous on March 19th, 2007 10:10 pm

    i will be there!!!

    going to be post on the guild forum “come one one come all to the first annual running of the gnomes hosted by the great hunter Damh
    disclaimer:all loosing gnomes will be fed to hobbs

    adrus

  12. Anonymous on April 5th, 2007 2:11 am

    WE’ll first of all happy birthday to whoever’s birthday it is… ok so first aval a druid and a hunter is a fun fight we’ll for the hunter. If im beast speced ill wait for the druid to prowl then ill pop a flare and set an ice trap, also if they try to attack from the side ill have track hidden down. when the druid attacks and gets caught in the trap ill pop on aspect of the monkey (with the improved affects from BM talent’s it increases my dodge chance by 14% with the 3% bonus again deeper in the bm talen’ts i have a 32% dodge chance) sure its not that high but hey i still have the awsome mini evasion spell from suvival talents. That gets me up to about 57% dodge chance for like 15 seconds,The druid will hardly hit me. after i layed my freezing trap from the begining of the fight ill use a frost trap and just run around the little square of snow. After the druids charges me and gets some hits ill use my BW and kill the poor little kitty/bear/nightelf/tauren/cheetah/whatevers left. just a few little tips on how to own a druid even harder. sorry for making my comment so long:D…

  13. Anonymous on April 5th, 2007 2:16 am

    Sorry for any spelling mistakes( i wrote the comment up above in a rush) Pathan:night elf hunter
    server:burning legion
    current spec: Bm/survial
    42/5/14
    level:70
    mail me a letter ingame for any questions or concerns

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