Dr Boom, I Presume?

BRK » 08 April 2007 » In Spec »

What in the blue-blazes is Dr. Boom? you might be asking yourself. You saw that mentioned in a previous article, but are ignorant as to its relevance. Well, we at the BRK Who’s Who of WoW NPCs and Otis Spunkmeyer Cookie Museum have you covered. Let’s run down a list of tools commonly used for dps research, shall we?

Paperdoll - A theoretical analysis of damage over time based upon stats and talent specs. Used as a foundation for justifying/degrading a specific piece of gear or talent build.

DamageMeters and SW-Stats - Addon tools used to record in-game damage.

Dr. Boom - An NPC in Area 52 with 650,000 health who does not aggro based upon damage, but by proximity. If you stay 20 yards away from him, you can blast at him all day long.

BRK has shown you Paperdoll analyzes of BM, MM, and SV talent builds. He has shown mathematically how Serpents Swiftness is the bomb-diggity; how BM does more damage over time than MM in a theoretical setting. Nobody has looked at the math and said, “those numbers are wrong”. That warms BRK’s heart; nobody is saying we cannot add or multiply.

But many folks decry Paperdoll testings as irrelevant, that real-WoW fighting is what matters. Shot rotation, Arcane Shot, Steady Shot, etc. must be included or the analysis is flawed and worthless.

Well, that’s bullpucky, but we’ll continue.

So how does one test one’s actual maximum-dps in a real-WoW setting? Well, our buddies the Vending Machines have Dr. Boom. They can fly to Netherstorm, sit outside his 20 yard aggro radius, blast until their mana is gone, and report their findings about talent specs. For them, there’s only one problem: crits.

Eliminating random chance is one of the tenets of the Scientific Process. So what the fire-squishies do is run the Dr. Boom tests over, and over, and over…

and over.

They attempt to lessen the effect of random crits by multiple runs. If a mage has a crit percentage of 20%, and during one Dr. Boom test he crits only 15% of the time, his dps is gonna be lower than he expects. If he crits 25% of the time, it’ll be higher. If he runs Dr. Boom 100 times, his crit average per run should approach his tooltip measurement of 20%, and thus be a more accurate representation of his real-WoW dps.

And that’s 100 runs per talent spec. That’s a lot of time to figure out if a 10/48/3 generates more dps than a 34/25/2. But you do it, you go through all that and find the numero uno dps spec for your gear… and then you get a drop in Mechanar that replaces gear, changes your crit percentage, decreases your mana… and it’s back to Dr. Boom for another 200 runs.

OMG, and that’s just the testing duration. Let’s talk about testing methodology.

Mana pots, popping trinkets, shot rotations, and macros all play a huge part in arguing whether or not a test was run “properly”. You want to have a real boring time learning about mages, go read the mage forums and their “discussions” of how a Dr. Boom test should be run. Then go to Eye of the Storm and kill them just make them shet ep and pay for all the aspirin you had to take to relieve your Dr. Boom headache.

“But it will give you a more accurate real-WoW analysis of how a MM hunter will beat a BM hunter in a ranged-weapon-only contest,” you might say.

Horsedung.

It gives you a more accurate real-WoW analysis of how a MM hunter will do against a BM hunter in a ranged-weapon-only contest against Dr. Boom. What about Arcane Resistant mobs? Any RAP-advantage a MM hunter would have with a more-powerful Arcane Shot goes out the window. What about Physical Resistant mobs where Steady Shot becomes irrelevant? How about those super-high armor mobs where Arcane Damage will give a huge advantage?

“Well, each situation is different, of course…”

Quiet you. And if you really want real-WoW damage, BRK needs to use his pet. We don’t want to count his damage, (we know MM don’t stand a bloody bleeping chance in BRD if we count our pet damage,) but the BM tree has talents that boost our dps based upon pet crits, and we want that counted.

But oh, that’s right. Dr. Boom has a 20-yard aggro radius; I can’t use my pet without destroying my ability to fire without aggroing him. That both blows and stinks; a BM-test with Dr. Boom is always going to have inaccurate results because we cannot count the hunter-damage that would be gained with a pet-crit talent proc.

For hunters, BM especially, Dr. Boom isn’t a very accurate test. Frankly, it sucks, and BRK disregards any Dr. Boom test results for hunters, period.

Are you interested in reading some BM Dr. Boom posts? Go here. Here are some snippets for those looking for troll-ammo:

“This is without pet. Which means I’m not getting my Focus Inspiration buff (3% extra damage) and my pet’s damage (at 160 paperdoll dps).”

“I guarantee MM hunters could not keep up with sustained DPS over 200k damage self buffed only.

“I’ve raided as 4 specs so far. BM, MM, SV, and 31/30 hybrid. I can truthfully say that in Karazhan BM is superior.”

BRK would really like to put this subject to rest, but if you’ve got something to contribute on this subject, go right ahead.

Some upcoming posts:

What the heck is the difference between Arcane and Steady Shot.
Is Survival Viable.
Slow Gun vs Fast Gun and How To Do Your Talents.
What Happened to Barby, and How Is Amanna Involved.
Does 12-Grain Bread Have Higher DPS Than 7-Grain, Or Is That Just a Paperdoll Stat.

Stay tuned.

Comments

11 Responses to “Dr Boom, I Presume?”

  1. Dave on April 9th, 2007 2:38 pm

    Only thing I’ve ever used Dr. Boom for was leveling guns, after having only used a crossbow since level 50.

  2. Damh on April 9th, 2007 2:54 pm

    Well, there’s that too. :)

  3. Kelektra on April 9th, 2007 3:27 pm

    I’ve still to find a good melee target like there is a Dr. Boom… sure, u can convince guildies to … guinea pig… but its not the same against a standard target. sigh…

  4. Misfit on April 9th, 2007 6:43 pm

    “Is Survival Viable.”

    /target Damh
    /tap

    :)

  5. Anonymous on April 29th, 2007 2:46 am

    The only thing i would like to know is… how does the 31/30 hybrid hold up to the other specs now with the increase to survival instincts? I personally think it will beat a MM build and maybe even come close to a BM build but i wouldn’t mind seeing the math on it…

  6. Anonymous on June 19th, 2007 9:41 pm

    Damh,

    The reason why people decry your theoretical dps model is because paperdoll damage is actually inaccurate even for auto shots.

    Each shot beyond autoshot uses different formulation based on RAP, scope damage (some shots use the stat from scope and some do not), to even the ammo damage (again some shots use ammo damage and some shots do not). The damage calculation based on the importance of RAP is different from shot to shot. Paperdoll damage is simply the worst and inaccurate way to judge how you will dps because it leaves out the crucial and important aspects of how each shot works and is formulated.

    I’m visiting this site as I have been searching why so many people are flocking to the BM model from MM.

    A little while ago I posted a Hunter’s damage chart based on shot formula. If you want to get a better understanding of how each shot is calculated based on spec and stats, you can take a look at the bottom of this link.

    http://www.scarletilluminati.com/hunters.html

    FYI.

    The tables show the effect of incremental crit vs rap increase (ilevel equivalent increments).

  7. Anonymous on July 18th, 2007 12:44 am

    I am a hardcore player that has been playing for approaching 3 years now and i have just switched classes to hunter about 2 months ago. I am now full epic with a nice balance between AP and Crit. I have just under 2500 AP and 23% crit, with MM spec that is (7/35/9). I can garrentee that on a boss fight MM spec has much higher DPS high end gear, mana sustained by super mana pots. I worked out damage from attack speed against average damage with shots. I do around 1000-1100 on steady and autoshot average… that IS taking crit into account and multishot is over 1500, usually over 1600.

  8. Anonymous on July 24th, 2007 6:09 pm

    Dr. Boom testing isn’t much used for comparing specs, or at least I’ve never heard a serious player attempt to do that.

    Dr. Boom is used to practice getting the most out of the spec you have. Many hunters haven’t worked out a solid rotation, or how to use rapid fire, or bestial wrath whenever they come up, etc.

    Dr. Boom is a good place to give that a try.

    An also to level new weapons. If Sunfury drops for me, it’s off to Dr. Boom. Bow skill=1 for me

  9. Anonymous on August 16th, 2007 6:45 pm

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    :”I can garrentee that on a boss fight MM spec has much higher DPS high end gear, mana sustained by super mana pots.”

    post ur armory or it didn’t happen ….

    Secndworst

  10. Anonymous on September 7th, 2007 2:43 pm

    couldn’t you theoretically still test BM vs Marksman on Dr. Boom by challenging someone to a duel near Dr.Boom preferably someone like a paly that could sit there and heal themselves through the pet damage while your pet goes to work on them you goto work on Dr.Boom

  11. Anonymous on September 25th, 2007 11:13 pm

    -to above

    No because the pally or someone else may not have the same mitigation that Dr. Boom has thus skewing the results. the pet hitting a priest would give a much different result than hitting a pally.

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