Comments on: The Focus System http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/05/15/the-focus-system/ World of Warcraft Hunter Blog Mon, 08 Sep 2008 10:23:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: TrapsHunter http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/05/15/the-focus-system/#comment-26703 TrapsHunter Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:36:34 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=279#comment-26703 Dash, useful in instances for running to Skull, X, etc. quicker and getting that DPS started. Also, now that you know how to turn off autocast by right clicking the pet icons, use dash, by left clicking or macros, on boss fights such as Shade or Prince to get your little buddy out of there before Arcane Blast/Shadow Nova. And I totally agree with Learned, a tank who can't overcome threat from a pet with growl turned off is no tank at all. A tank you wanna be with is one where you forget to turn off growl, only because you were too busy get Aspect of the Pack off :D. Dash, useful in instances for running to Skull, X, etc. quicker and getting that DPS started.

Also, now that you know how to turn off autocast by right clicking the pet icons, use dash, by left clicking or macros, on boss fights such as Shade or Prince to get your little buddy out of there before Arcane Blast/Shadow Nova.

And I totally agree with Learned, a tank who can’t overcome threat from a pet with growl turned off is no tank at all. A tank you wanna be with is one where you forget to turn off growl, only because you were too busy get Aspect of the Pack off :D.

]]> By: Ezekiel http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/05/15/the-focus-system/#comment-26200 Ezekiel Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:52:22 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=279#comment-26200 To confirm once again: Last night I did an experiment: in DamageMeters I divided my and pet's damages so that I had 2 separate bars and first let my pet run on bite only. The damage done was something like 34% (pet) vs 66% (me). Then I turned just claw on and grinded for another hour. Damage was 37%(pet) vs 63% (me). I have also tried having both on (bite and claw) and it seemed that claw was never or rarely autocasted, because bite was eating all the focus. Now I've unlearned bite and run on only claw, and have 250+ more training points to spend on resistances as needed. Go Claw!!!! To confirm once again:
Last night I did an experiment: in DamageMeters I divided my and pet’s damages so that I had 2 separate bars and first let my pet run on bite only. The damage done was something like 34% (pet) vs 66% (me). Then I turned just claw on and grinded for another hour. Damage was 37%(pet) vs 63% (me). I have also tried having both on (bite and claw) and it seemed that claw was never or rarely autocasted, because bite was eating all the focus. Now I’ve unlearned bite and run on only claw, and have 250+ more training points to spend on resistances as needed. Go Claw!!!!

]]> By: Trei http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/05/15/the-focus-system/#comment-25399 Trei Wed, 04 Jun 2008 05:15:40 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=279#comment-25399 The faster your pet gets to the target, the sooner your pet can start attacking the target.... It may also come in handy when you really really need to get your pet out of Bad Things, fast. The faster your pet gets to the target, the sooner your pet can start attacking the target….

It may also come in handy when you really really need to get your pet out of Bad Things, fast.

]]> By: tweekgeek http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/05/15/the-focus-system/#comment-17654 tweekgeek Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:37:57 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=279#comment-17654 Why not train and autocast just CLAW and GROWL for a kitty??? Seems to me, DASH is a waste of Focus... Oh it's kool to watch my kitty zip to the target, but that doesn't generate any more agro from the target. (Does it???) Either way, you need to wait til the pet attacks and gains agro... with that 1st GROWL... then u can start shootin. So wut if u wait another second or two to start shootin, til he gets there and the GROWL goes off... Wouldn't the cat have 85 Focus left for 1 Claw (60 left), 2 Claws (35 left), 3 Claws (10 left), then wait for more Focus, at which time another GROWL, CLAW, CLAW, CLAW... etc. Seems to me you get one extra Claw, possibly two, every 4 second cycle... More DPS and better holding agro... plus leaves extra training points for more stamina or resistances! Tweekgeek Why not train and autocast just CLAW and GROWL for a kitty??? Seems to me, DASH is a waste of Focus… Oh it’s kool to watch my kitty zip to the target, but that doesn’t generate any more agro from the target. (Does it???) Either way, you need to wait til the pet attacks and gains agro… with that 1st GROWL… then u can start shootin. So wut if u wait another second or two to start shootin, til he gets there and the GROWL goes off… Wouldn’t the cat have 85 Focus left for 1 Claw (60 left), 2 Claws (35 left), 3 Claws (10 left), then wait for more Focus, at which time another GROWL, CLAW, CLAW, CLAW… etc. Seems to me you get one extra Claw, possibly two, every 4 second cycle… More DPS and better holding agro… plus leaves extra training points for more stamina or resistances!

Tweekgeek

]]> By: Valarias http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/05/15/the-focus-system/#comment-15259 Valarias Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:53:48 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=279#comment-15259 In regards to Dash, is it worth keeping on for instances such as Kara, or is it better to save that focus (and let the tank build some aggro while your pet runs up, assuming you aren't MD for that pull), so that your pet can use it for Claw or Bite (or both)? Right now I'm BM spec, I run Echyakee w/Dash, Growl (turned off for instances), and Claw. I've been thinking of trying Bite & Claw together.. would that adversely affect my kitty dps? -Val In regards to Dash, is it worth keeping on for instances such as Kara, or is it better to save that focus (and let the tank build some aggro while your pet runs up, assuming you aren’t MD for that pull), so that your pet can use it for Claw or Bite (or both)?

Right now I’m BM spec, I run Echyakee w/Dash, Growl (turned off for instances), and Claw. I’ve been thinking of trying Bite & Claw together.. would that adversely affect my kitty dps?

-Val

]]> By: Learned http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/05/15/the-focus-system/#comment-10850 Learned Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:48:00 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=279#comment-10850 IMHO cower is utterly useless, it is a waste of an active talent. If you are running with a tank who can't keep his threat over your pet, he is either:<br/>a)r-tarded(yes some people are, just find a new tank) <br/>b)wearing +healing gear, and thus also falls under "a" or <br/>c) much lower lvl then you (so his ego won't be damaged if your pet pulls aggro, since your pet can probably tank better then he can)<br/>so basically dont waste training points in cower, unless your pet can't learn anything else. IMHO cower is utterly useless, it is a waste of an active talent. If you are running with a tank who can’t keep his threat over your pet, he is either:
a)r-tarded(yes some people are, just find a new tank)
b)wearing +healing gear, and thus also falls under “a” or
c) much lower lvl then you (so his ego won’t be damaged if your pet pulls aggro, since your pet can probably tank better then he can)
so basically dont waste training points in cower, unless your pet can’t learn anything else.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/05/15/the-focus-system/#comment-9479 Anonymous Sat, 20 Oct 2007 06:07:00 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=279#comment-9479 I absolutely love this blog. For more information on the theorycraft of pet abilities including all of the above you can visit http://forums.tkasomething.com/ in the Pick of the Litter section. There are extensive discussions of these issues with a very large amount of evidence and math behind the opinions (enough to make your eyes bleed). All in an easy to use index and search function. Also the excel spreedsheet by Cheeky of the guild Havoc models ALL hunter abilities including gear as well as pets. This is extremely useful in modeling max DPS and for comparing whether or not claw or claw+bite (or whatever abilities the pet has) is better for your spec/gear. Thanks again for such a wonderful addition to the world of Hunter's. I absolutely love this blog. For more information on the theorycraft of pet abilities including all of the above you can visit http://forums.tkasomething.com/ in the Pick of the Litter section. There are extensive discussions of these issues with a very large amount of evidence and math behind the opinions (enough to make your eyes bleed). All in an easy to use index and search function. Also the excel spreedsheet by Cheeky of the guild Havoc models ALL hunter abilities including gear as well as pets. This is extremely useful in modeling max DPS and for comparing whether or not claw or claw+bite (or whatever abilities the pet has) is better for your spec/gear. Thanks again for such a wonderful addition to the world of Hunter’s.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/05/15/the-focus-system/#comment-6378 Anonymous Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:53:00 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=279#comment-6378 Ralowae here, Zangermarsh server, 70 Tauren Hunter, lifetime BM spec (except for the time I've spent as marks trying to level Humar up to 70, but we won't speak of that). I can confirm that pets put growl first, then claw and bite. I also have a little ritual when I respec: I train growl first, so it appears first in the bar, then bite/claw, then everything else, placing them in my order of preference. This habit comes from before I knew that pets had a built in skill preference, but i still follow it anyway. I have spent time watching my pet's behavior, and when i get a crit, thus providing 50 focus for GftT, Echeyakee always Growls first. Ralowae here, Zangermarsh server, 70 Tauren Hunter, lifetime BM spec (except for the time I’ve spent as marks trying to level Humar up to 70, but we won’t speak of that). I can confirm that pets put growl first, then claw and bite. I also have a little ritual when I respec: I train growl first, so it appears first in the bar, then bite/claw, then everything else, placing them in my order of preference. This habit comes from before I knew that pets had a built in skill preference, but i still follow it anyway. I have spent time watching my pet’s behavior, and when i get a crit, thus providing 50 focus for GftT, Echeyakee always Growls first.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/05/15/the-focus-system/#comment-6312 Anonymous Sun, 26 Aug 2007 12:50:00 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=279#comment-6312 hi love the blog Damh <br/>for instances to keep the tank happy would this pet set work:<br/>Growl(not on autocast) dash, claw and cower(autocast).<br/>both you and our pet will be gouging great chunks out of your targets hide and only pay attention to the tank. hi love the blog Damh
for instances to keep the tank happy would this pet set work:
Growl(not on autocast) dash, claw and cower(autocast).
both you and our pet will be gouging great chunks out of your targets hide and only pay attention to the tank.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/05/15/the-focus-system/#comment-1859 Anonymous Tue, 22 May 2007 17:32:00 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=279#comment-1859 How do you know how much focus the pet has and how fast it is used up? I look at all the numbers coming off a mark and get confused. I'm sure there is a specific place to look that I'm just not observing. This forum is wonderful. Sorry about the low level question.<br/><br/>Howdy How do you know how much focus the pet has and how fast it is used up? I look at all the numbers coming off a mark and get confused. I’m sure there is a specific place to look that I’m just not observing. This forum is wonderful. Sorry about the low level question.

Howdy

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