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		<title>By: Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/06/26/and-now-we-return-to-our-regular-programming/#comment-2994</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 06:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two MM or two BM hunters in seprate groups works well too.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;but only ONE SV hunter per raid.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;EW does not stack.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-guy&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;PS: Diversity makes you stronger, two BMs are weak sause.  Yeah the buff stacks but you're better off bringing another spec for it's buffage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two MM or two BM hunters in seprate groups works well too.</p>
<p>but only ONE SV hunter per raid.</p>
<p>EW does not stack.</p>
<p>-guy</p>
<p>PS: Diversity makes you stronger, two BMs are weak sause.  Yeah the buff stacks but you&#8217;re better off bringing another spec for it&#8217;s buffage.</p>
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		<title>By: BRK</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/06/26/and-now-we-return-to-our-regular-programming/#comment-2992</link>
		<dc:creator>BRK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 03:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, Trueshot does not stack.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But Ferocious Inspiration does. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, Trueshot does not stack.</p>
<p>But Ferocious Inspiration does. <img src='http://www.bigredkitty.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Hamish</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/06/26/and-now-we-return-to-our-regular-programming/#comment-2988</link>
		<dc:creator>Hamish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: iHM not stacking (Guy)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I thought this was the case, but hadn't run Kara yet to prove it. I assume Trueshot Aura doesn't stack either, making two MM hunters in the same raid a lot less effective than an MM hunter and a SV hunter, OR an MM hunter and a BM hunter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: iHM not stacking (Guy)</p>
<p>I thought this was the case, but hadn&#8217;t run Kara yet to prove it. I assume Trueshot Aura doesn&#8217;t stack either, making two MM hunters in the same raid a lot less effective than an MM hunter and a SV hunter, OR an MM hunter and a BM hunter.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/06/26/and-now-we-return-to-our-regular-programming/#comment-2983</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iHM doesn't stack.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;it's not worth it for someone to dump the points in there if another hunter has it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-guy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iHM doesn&#8217;t stack.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s not worth it for someone to dump the points in there if another hunter has it.</p>
<p>-guy</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/06/26/and-now-we-return-to-our-regular-programming/#comment-2982</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no improved hunters mark???&lt;br/&gt;didnt you say htat only selfish hunters didnt take IHM?????&lt;br/&gt;:) glit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no improved hunters mark???<br />didnt you say htat only selfish hunters didnt take IHM?????<br /> <img src='http://www.bigredkitty.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> glit</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/06/26/and-now-we-return-to-our-regular-programming/#comment-2968</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 18:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Misfit,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Let me preface all this with saying I look at these things from a pure raid perspective.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You have a lot of +hit, just remember with sure footed your hit cap is about 89.  I have the same problem right now, I can’t seem to drop the +hit and pick up Crit or RAP.  Shucks.. I guess I’ll just have to suffer through NEVER missing a shot.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Your weapon speed is 2.43.  This means you need a crit rate of 34.71% to maintain EW on Autoshot alone.  EW procs off all shots though so using that weapon you could probably get away with a crit rate of 30% or better and be fine.  Pick up that wolfslayers rifle as soon as you can.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I recommend using your current crit trinket and the one from BM or Skyguard rep.  That’s a lot of crit.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Unless you expect to upgrade the sonic spear, I would agility chant that.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You’re talents aren’t raid friendly, but you probably knew that.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Now I’m going to admit the kind of loser I am.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I woke up this morning and the first thing to go through my head was:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;“If I looked at my mana pool, the cost of Steady shot, master tactician proc rate, my crit rate and thrill of the hunt, I can theory craft how much more damage I’ll be able to produce after I’m OOM now vs if I did have thrill of the hunt.”&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Then I realized I just don’t run out of mana that much and it wasn’t worth it to gimp my damage.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Readiness is your friend, that’s 3 rapid fires in the time a normal hunters get off 2.  Double misdirection can save a wipe.  Readiness and traps is a no brainer.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It seems like your talents aim to do a lot of different things okay, and not anything great.  I would say pick a direction and go with it.  If you want to account for things then look at it like this:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Even if your freeze trap ticked for 1000 damage per second that your mob was trapped, you would still be better off with master tactician than you are with improving your traps.  You’re going to spend more time dealing ranged damage over the course of a raid than you will trapping.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Go for the throat is a main stay of any raid spec.  (Another reason why the MM tree rocks).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I guess my question to you Misfit is, what do you want to do?  Pick one and only one: trap?  Damage? Melee? PvP?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It just seems like the points are all over the place, or you have spec’d JUST to trap.  That’s cool if so.. but something tells me your groups inherently need better CC than what one SV hunter provides.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Karl, &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As long as you’re geared right and know what you’re doing, the people you roll with knowing what you do is just the icing on the cake.  Ultimately, the people who don’t know you will judge you soley on your damage.  If a SV hunter can realize his own thresholds and does what he can to meet them then the damage will produce itself.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;A group who asks where their TSA is only needs to be told that they have EW instead and that EW is going to give them X number of AP more than TSA.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-guy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Misfit,</p>
<p>Let me preface all this with saying I look at these things from a pure raid perspective.</p>
<p>You have a lot of +hit, just remember with sure footed your hit cap is about 89.  I have the same problem right now, I can’t seem to drop the +hit and pick up Crit or RAP.  Shucks.. I guess I’ll just have to suffer through NEVER missing a shot.</p>
<p>Your weapon speed is 2.43.  This means you need a crit rate of 34.71% to maintain EW on Autoshot alone.  EW procs off all shots though so using that weapon you could probably get away with a crit rate of 30% or better and be fine.  Pick up that wolfslayers rifle as soon as you can.</p>
<p>I recommend using your current crit trinket and the one from BM or Skyguard rep.  That’s a lot of crit.</p>
<p>Unless you expect to upgrade the sonic spear, I would agility chant that.</p>
<p>You’re talents aren’t raid friendly, but you probably knew that.</p>
<p>Now I’m going to admit the kind of loser I am.</p>
<p>I woke up this morning and the first thing to go through my head was:</p>
<p>“If I looked at my mana pool, the cost of Steady shot, master tactician proc rate, my crit rate and thrill of the hunt, I can theory craft how much more damage I’ll be able to produce after I’m OOM now vs if I did have thrill of the hunt.”</p>
<p>Then I realized I just don’t run out of mana that much and it wasn’t worth it to gimp my damage.</p>
<p>Readiness is your friend, that’s 3 rapid fires in the time a normal hunters get off 2.  Double misdirection can save a wipe.  Readiness and traps is a no brainer.  </p>
<p>It seems like your talents aim to do a lot of different things okay, and not anything great.  I would say pick a direction and go with it.  If you want to account for things then look at it like this:</p>
<p>Even if your freeze trap ticked for 1000 damage per second that your mob was trapped, you would still be better off with master tactician than you are with improving your traps.  You’re going to spend more time dealing ranged damage over the course of a raid than you will trapping.</p>
<p>Go for the throat is a main stay of any raid spec.  (Another reason why the MM tree rocks).</p>
<p>I guess my question to you Misfit is, what do you want to do?  Pick one and only one: trap?  Damage? Melee? PvP?</p>
<p>It just seems like the points are all over the place, or you have spec’d JUST to trap.  That’s cool if so.. but something tells me your groups inherently need better CC than what one SV hunter provides.</p>
<p>Karl, </p>
<p>As long as you’re geared right and know what you’re doing, the people you roll with knowing what you do is just the icing on the cake.  Ultimately, the people who don’t know you will judge you soley on your damage.  If a SV hunter can realize his own thresholds and does what he can to meet them then the damage will produce itself.</p>
<p>A group who asks where their TSA is only needs to be told that they have EW instead and that EW is going to give them X number of AP more than TSA.</p>
<p>-guy</p>
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		<title>By: Misfit</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/06/26/and-now-we-return-to-our-regular-programming/#comment-2964</link>
		<dc:creator>Misfit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 18:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karl,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;All I can say is before every guild run, be proactive about people out their understanding the differences between specs.  To the common WoW player, if you arent a MM Hunter then your useless, and this is a stigma that we here at BRKland deal with and talk about daily.  A lot of people out there, even hunters, dont realize the amount of utility that a SV hunter brings to a group or raid.  The only way to get it known is to show people how it's done and try to break the "MM Hunter or bust" mentality one group (guild or pug) at a time.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;On a related note, I was SL pug with my Shadow Priest the other day and told the leader to use me for Mind Controls.  He was hesitant at first, but once he saw it in action, he was sold.  Every pull had me MCing something and it was awesome (I got to play a different class on every pull :)).  After the run was done everyone in the group had admitted to not really noticing the value of Shadow Priests until then.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Take this approach to showing the utility of a SV hunter (along with some solid damage) and people might realize that were more than mail wearing mages.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;- Misfit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karl,</p>
<p>All I can say is before every guild run, be proactive about people out their understanding the differences between specs.  To the common WoW player, if you arent a MM Hunter then your useless, and this is a stigma that we here at BRKland deal with and talk about daily.  A lot of people out there, even hunters, dont realize the amount of utility that a SV hunter brings to a group or raid.  The only way to get it known is to show people how it&#8217;s done and try to break the &#8220;MM Hunter or bust&#8221; mentality one group (guild or pug) at a time.</p>
<p>On a related note, I was SL pug with my Shadow Priest the other day and told the leader to use me for Mind Controls.  He was hesitant at first, but once he saw it in action, he was sold.  Every pull had me MCing something and it was awesome (I got to play a different class on every pull :)).  After the run was done everyone in the group had admitted to not really noticing the value of Shadow Priests until then.</p>
<p>Take this approach to showing the utility of a SV hunter (along with some solid damage) and people might realize that were more than mail wearing mages.</p>
<p>- Misfit</p>
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		<title>By: Melgin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 18:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note that an more refined macro for misdirection is simply:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;/cast [target=focus] Misdirection&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;no worrying about the targetlasttarget jazz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note that an more refined macro for misdirection is simply:</p>
<p>/cast [target=focus] Misdirection</p>
<p>no worrying about the targetlasttarget jazz</p>
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		<title>By: TJ</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/06/26/and-now-we-return-to-our-regular-programming/#comment-2957</link>
		<dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You dare sass Paul Potts?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You won't soon be forgiven for this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You dare sass Paul Potts?</p>
<p>You won&#8217;t soon be forgiven for this.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A question for the survivalist guys here...  if you are not in a solid team where everyone knows their roles, and instead you are in a guild that is growing and changing and everyone is leveling, and it's more like a massive PUG, is there any sense in going survivalist?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I can see the utility, but I only see it being really usable if you have a chance to do your vodoo with guys that understand what you are doing..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A question for the survivalist guys here&#8230;  if you are not in a solid team where everyone knows their roles, and instead you are in a guild that is growing and changing and everyone is leveling, and it&#8217;s more like a massive PUG, is there any sense in going survivalist?</p>
<p>I can see the utility, but I only see it being really usable if you have a chance to do your vodoo with guys that understand what you are doing..</p>
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