Comments on: What’s the Deal with Weapon Skill http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/07/28/whats-the-deal-with-weapon-skill/ World of Warcraft Hunter Blog Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:13:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Zemulos http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/07/28/whats-the-deal-with-weapon-skill/#comment-4695 Zemulos Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:00:00 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=486#comment-4695 Ok, as I've said before, i'm not good with the math. But I can tell you this about Don Santos. Regardless of what the actual proc rate is supposed to be... this gun seems to proc constantly. If there's a pull of two mobs or more, I actually EXPECT it to proc. I have not gotten the wolf weapon to drop for me. But I would actually pass it to another guild hunter if I was not the only hunter there. I want it, don't get me wrong, but I'm not sure it's an upgrade. And you say that it's good for BM because of firing speed. I agree. With it's insane proc, it's great for BM. But bear in mind also, that for MM, instead of 250ap when it procs, you get 275. And I've read that proc rate is per minute or something and that faster weapons do not equal more procs over the same amount of time assuming no misses...If that's the case, it's technically better for MM. But, it's still hot no matter what. Ok, as I’ve said before, i’m not good with the math. But I can tell you this about Don Santos. Regardless of what the actual proc rate is supposed to be… this gun seems to proc constantly. If there’s a pull of two mobs or more, I actually EXPECT it to proc. I have not gotten the wolf weapon to drop for me. But I would actually pass it to another guild hunter if I was not the only hunter there. I want it, don’t get me wrong, but I’m not sure it’s an upgrade. And you say that it’s good for BM because of firing speed. I agree. With it’s insane proc, it’s great for BM. But bear in mind also, that for MM, instead of 250ap when it procs, you get 275. And I’ve read that proc rate is per minute or something and that faster weapons do not equal more procs over the same amount of time assuming no misses…If that’s the case, it’s technically better for MM. But, it’s still hot no matter what.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/07/28/whats-the-deal-with-weapon-skill/#comment-4682 Anonymous Mon, 30 Jul 2007 13:31:00 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=486#comment-4682 Wow, this is the first time I've seen BRK recommend something completely wrong. The Sunfury is actually a horrendous weapon for BM specs, weapon level be damned.<br/><br/>(Check out Cheeky's spreadsheet at TKA Something, it's fabulous!. I lose 16 or so straight dps w/ the Bow NOT including the 43 dps ammo vs 37 for Bows).<br/><br/><br/>Otherwise love the blog, keep up the good work! Wow, this is the first time I’ve seen BRK recommend something completely wrong. The Sunfury is actually a horrendous weapon for BM specs, weapon level be damned.

(Check out Cheeky’s spreadsheet at TKA Something, it’s fabulous!. I lose 16 or so straight dps w/ the Bow NOT including the 43 dps ammo vs 37 for Bows).

Otherwise love the blog, keep up the good work!

]]> By: Honors Code http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/07/28/whats-the-deal-with-weapon-skill/#comment-4677 Honors Code Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:33:00 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=486#comment-4677 All ?? Boss mobs are treated as Level 73, and they DO have 365 defense. <br/><br/>This is the very reason why melee hit, ranged hit, spell hit and spell penetration are so important in PVE (yet relatively unimportant in PVP). <br/><br/>You need that extra hit rating (or spell hit or spell penetation) because your chance to miss a boss, or have the boss resist your spells is higher than it is on trash.<br/><br/>We recommend all our Hunters have a minimum 5% hit (from talents or gear) for this very reason. All ?? Boss mobs are treated as Level 73, and they DO have 365 defense.

This is the very reason why melee hit, ranged hit, spell hit and spell penetration are so important in PVE (yet relatively unimportant in PVP).

You need that extra hit rating (or spell hit or spell penetation) because your chance to miss a boss, or have the boss resist your spells is higher than it is on trash.

We recommend all our Hunters have a minimum 5% hit (from talents or gear) for this very reason.

]]> By: Sayth http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/07/28/whats-the-deal-with-weapon-skill/#comment-4651 Sayth Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:16:00 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=486#comment-4651 P.S.: And yes: Shooting more would extend the advantage - more shots fired means more shots benefiting from the +AP buff. Shooting more means more proccs. Your pet would also benefitr from having more AP. P.S.: And yes: Shooting more would extend the advantage - more shots fired means more shots benefiting from the +AP buff. Shooting more means more proccs. Your pet would also benefitr from having more AP.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/07/28/whats-the-deal-with-weapon-skill/#comment-4650 Anonymous Sun, 29 Jul 2007 15:57:00 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=486#comment-4650 @Fatboy<br/>Well... The Procrate should be more like 7%...<br/>I hope they didnt silent-nerf it in 2.2. @Fatboy
Well… The Procrate should be more like 7%…
I hope they didnt silent-nerf it in 2.2.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/07/28/whats-the-deal-with-weapon-skill/#comment-4648 Anonymous Sun, 29 Jul 2007 09:03:00 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=486#comment-4648 Hmm - I bought a Don Santos and took it to the PTR - I was very dissapointed - fired 3200 shots at DR Boom - the Proc Rate was just under 4% - autoshot only and the DPS only about 1.5% greater than my Consortium Blaster over the same number of shots because the Blaster's crit rate was higher. I am tempted to put it back on the AH. Doesn't seem to be worth the 14ooG<br/><br/>Would a normal shot rotation extend the advantage of the Don Santos?<br/><br/>cheers<br/><br/>Fatboy on Khaz Modan Hmm - I bought a Don Santos and took it to the PTR - I was very dissapointed - fired 3200 shots at DR Boom - the Proc Rate was just under 4% - autoshot only and the DPS only about 1.5% greater than my Consortium Blaster over the same number of shots because the Blaster’s crit rate was higher. I am tempted to put it back on the AH. Doesn’t seem to be worth the 14ooG

Would a normal shot rotation extend the advantage of the Don Santos?

cheers

Fatboy on Khaz Modan

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/07/28/whats-the-deal-with-weapon-skill/#comment-4647 Anonymous Sun, 29 Jul 2007 06:36:00 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=486#comment-4647 <3 the labby <3 the labby

]]> By: Wolfstalker http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/07/28/whats-the-deal-with-weapon-skill/#comment-4646 Wolfstalker Sun, 29 Jul 2007 01:28:00 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=486#comment-4646 It's becoming increasingly evident that Don Santos' is the best weapon for BM. It’s becoming increasingly evident that Don Santos’ is the best weapon for BM.

]]> By: Sayth http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/07/28/whats-the-deal-with-weapon-skill/#comment-4644 Sayth Sat, 28 Jul 2007 18:56:00 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=486#comment-4644 The same night I have got the Wolfslayer Sniper Rifle I have bought the Don Sants Famous Hunting Rifle.<br/>It gave me about 10 DPS more than Wolfslayer (the proc is fantastic for a BM because of the machinegun-like shot speed)<br/>I have passed for the Sunfury bow that dropped a week later for a rogue.<br/>Having so much dead time in my shot rotation is a DPS killer.<br/>So I have chosen a weapon with about 10 less DPS, but I still do more damage with it. The same night I have got the Wolfslayer Sniper Rifle I have bought the Don Sants Famous Hunting Rifle.
It gave me about 10 DPS more than Wolfslayer (the proc is fantastic for a BM because of the machinegun-like shot speed)
I have passed for the Sunfury bow that dropped a week later for a rogue.
Having so much dead time in my shot rotation is a DPS killer.
So I have chosen a weapon with about 10 less DPS, but I still do more damage with it.

]]> By: Boo http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/07/28/whats-the-deal-with-weapon-skill/#comment-4643 Boo Sat, 28 Jul 2007 16:20:00 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=486#comment-4643 Instead of starting to argue about the importance of attack speed, I'll just post this link to a nice comparison between Wolfslayer Sniper Rifle and Sunfury Bow:<br/><br/>http://forums.tkasomething.com/viewtopic.php?t=5020<br/><br/>I for one trusted the numbers posted there and after trying out the bow for two nights in Kara, I decided to switch back to my Wolfslayer Rifle and tucked the bow away into my dusty bag. Instead of starting to argue about the importance of attack speed, I’ll just post this link to a nice comparison between Wolfslayer Sniper Rifle and Sunfury Bow:

http://forums.tkasomething.com/viewtopic.php?t=5020

I for one trusted the numbers posted there and after trying out the bow for two nights in Kara, I decided to switch back to my Wolfslayer Rifle and tucked the bow away into my dusty bag.

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