DamageMeters Question
“Dear BRK, I started reading your blog when a hunter friend in my guild recommended it not too long ago. At the time I was playing as a MM build of my own designs, respecced from BM at about level 65. After reading your blog and debating with myself, I respecced back to BM using your 41/20/0 build and I love it to pieces.
“Last night in Karazhan I was 3rd in damage according to DamageMeters, just barely nudging myself above my hunter friend who runs a 0/21/40 survival build. However, my main question is this: Looking at the DM, there was a rather large gap between me and the top 2: a mage (did around 22% of the damage) and a fury war (did around 19% of the damage); next up was me at just above 12%.
“I know there are a few things on my end that are preventing me from getting all the damage I desire; my gear is still a bit lacking (blame that on absolutely terrible luck, I haven’t gotten anything I’ve wanted since my Beast Lord Leggings around a month ago), and I need to get some more enchants done (although I was waiting to get some better gear for that as money is tight). Also, I wasn’t sure if DamageMeters takes other people’s pets into account; the priest that was running it says it does, but I wasn’t sure. Just wondering if that’s all there is to it for me, or is there something else I should be doing?
“Thanks a ton for reading, I love your blog! Cielidor and Hawkbane”
We don’t have access to the WoW Armory right now so we have to make an educated guess as to your gear. If all you have of the Dungeon Set 3 gear is the Beast Lord Leggings - the single worst piece of the bunch - then we’re going to guess that you are, quite frankly, undergeared for Karazhan. But no worries! It’s not like you can’t go or anything. It’s just that compared to people - like mages and arms warriors who have their DS3 gear - your damage totals are going to suffer.
But not so badly as you are reporting, for the following reason:
Hunter A is running damagemeters and has it set to count his pet in his totals. Hunter B is running damagemeters and has it set to count his pet in his totals. When these two sync, their data should merge fluidly.
Hunter A is running damagemeters and has it set to NOT count his pet in his totals. Hunter B is running damagemeters and has it set to NOT count his pet in his totals. When these two sync, their data should merge fluidly.
However, if one hunter is set to count his pet and the other is set to NOT count his pet, damagemeters can get buggy. Likewise, if the raid has several members running damagemeters and some of them are including pets and others are not, damagemeters is gonna be very buggy. And Elune help you if someone changes their setting in the middle of a run. You can just ignore damagemeters for the rest of the night after that.
BRK likes to keep his pet separated so that the entire raid can see how important it is to send Hobbes healz. For two weeks in a row, Hobbes has off-tanked two of Moroes’ adds without healz and died both times. Our guild likes to try to use a rogue to off-tank a caster on the initial pull, but Hobbes grabbs aggro regardless if Growl is on or not.
But that add isn’t the problem, it’s the melee guy we’ve been trapping that nukes our pet. When he is to be DPS’d, we slap Growl and Intimidation and Pet Mend and send him to save our rogue’s @ss. Yep, Hobbes cannot off-tank him and survive, but it’s a sacrifice we’re willing to make for the raid. Once the 2nd add is down and all DPS focuses on Moroes, we run to Our Spot and rez Hobbes, slap a Pet Mend on him, shove a Sporeling Snack in his jowls, and get him back in the fight. We’d rather be out of commission for a few seconds than have a dead rogue.
And we’re off-track. Sorry.
What we think you saw was your pet not being included in the reporting. If your top DPS folks are in good gear and you’re not they could quite easily out-DPS you, but probably not by 7-10%. As a BM hunter in below-average gear, we’re thinking your pet did 3-5% of the total DPS and that wasn’t being reported due to conflicting damagemeters settings.
At the beginning of the run, ask all the raid members to select not to include pets. That should solve your immediate problem of Lack of Information and Confidence in the reporting. Then go get your DS3 gear.
And if you’ve got gold-problems, consider dumping your manufacturing professions, hmm?
We’re sure to get the obligatory “SW STATS FTW!” comment but we’ve been unsuccessful in convincing our guild to switch. Frankly, a new damage meters addon isn’t our biggest concern; it’s getting our tanks to generate threat. More on that in a later post.










