Welcome WoW-Link-Clickers to Post #500
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Everyone knows, MM hunters rule!
Congrats on the 500th post. Things have been a bit hectic so no posts http://FTP…soon..yes soon I shall return.
BRK has some really awesome links to blogs. There are several I read almost daily.
Hobbes is the cooler of the two.
This is Hobbes’s blog; we just live here.
Grats on 500!
But more PVP posts imo!
/shy
/wave
/shy
*Slides to the back of the room.* “I hope this is where the hunters in training hide.”
I seriously love the blog, TJ, DCoE and all the others that keep my work hours ticking by so fast. I’ve bookmarked all of you for faster reference and laughs every day.
Brinar and Bandit from Greymane
*see I can be taught, I remembered to put both my better half (my cat) and my server!*
This blog makes me happy…. see /grin.
/toast “Gratzi on the post milestone and here is for hopes of 500 more”
/sticky
Where the fuck was this intro when I came along?
Anyhow.. This seems to be as good a place as any to get off topic..
I don’t pvp a whole lot, infact, I’m kinda bad at it. But last night I did especially bad.
Now I’m not blaming last nights issues on this, but someone PLEASE look at this and tell me what I’m seeing.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i205/Guywired/lolwut.jpg
I don’t get. How does this happen? How is this even possible!??!?!?!??!!?!?
Blizzard has some essplaining to do!
Guy said a bad word!
/smite
/flex
Gonna hafta excuse Guy for the naughty word … how exactly does Expose Weakness miss? If Expose Weakness can miss, can Bestial Wrath crit? Hmmm ….
@Guy
There are two possibilities that I know of; the first one being resilience. When it was introduced, they separated resistance checks for crits and their procs (at least when PvP is involved). So crits negated by player resilience could still proc an talent/enchant/etc. Much the same way some bosses attacks may have two effects and you can resist one but not the other.
While possible, this isn’t really likely as it’s not a weapon proc so much as a static talent.
The other possibility is that EW has a hidden cooldown (see Windfury and Shaman QQ). I noticed yellow in the line above it so I imagine you might be crit’ing enough to trigger such a hidden cooldown.
The third possibility is that it’s not a hidden cooldown but a misrepresentation of “another more powerful spell is already active”. Meaning you crit one shot to put up EW (full) and instant cast Arcane but since EW was already at full strenght it could not be applied again. This is probably the most likely candidate.
Those are just guesses though.
“This is Hobbes’s blog; we just live here.”
Haha, that reminds me… my brother (who plays a 70 warrior) told me this the other day: “There is nothing scarier in battlegrounds than a Beast Mastery hunter and its Night Elf pet.” Hehe, I suppose we’ll have to modify that a bit to say Dwarf pet
And congrats again on the milestone, I’ve been lurking for a while now but didn’t start commenting until just recently… this really is a fun place to hang out!
Erg, that’s three. I can’t count…
Grats on 500 posts BRK, it gave me goodluck and I’m now the proud owned of the dragonspine trophy of ZOMG nerf this trinket. With the super number of shots BM fires this thing is up all the time. I mean seriously on mag wipes yesterday just killing the 5 channelers it was up 6-8 times per 3 minute wipe.
@Guy
/lol that sucks could it be something like cloak of shadows or evasion that gives him avoidance to ranged or avoidance to magic?
What TJ? Never seen me swear before? Hehe, I try to throw one in about once a day
But I’m still lost and confused about how the whole EW thing happened.
Good guesses on the part of Tin.
The first idea I think is the most possible, how ever my talent reads that 100% of the time that I crit EW lands on my target.
I don’t think it can be a hidden cooldown simply because of it’s mechanic. EW lasts 7 seconds. Every time I crit, it gets refreshed, allowing me to keep it up indefinetly. So no hidden CD there.
And I don’t think that it was a more powerful spell, as it was just me and a holy priest vs. a rogue and lock. So no other classes had a more powerful spell to apply.
I think I’m going to spam this screenshot everywhere on the internet till I get an answer.
-guy
PS: Anony could be right.. it was a rogue, and I’m not sure how exactly cloak of shadows would play with EW. I’m supposed to get EW 100% of the time though! I feel ripped off.
PPS: For awhile I was wondering if it was a Hit rating thing, but I landed the crit, it should have proc’d, also, I’m sitting on a hit rating of 115, BEFORE surefooted. I just don’t get it!
@Guy
Duel someone, put it up and have them check the tooltip. If EW is anything but a physical debuff (eg Rend), CloS will dispell or resist it (minimum 90%, more with talents/gear).
Although I’m certain you should get a “resist” message if CloS had allowed the rogue to resist it. (Check that with some dueling as well.)
Grats on 500 boss!
LOL – Gotta love the wow forums…
I ask the same question there as I do here and I get one response from a rogue…
Rogues have no weakness, so there is really nothing to expose.
I lol’d.
And one response from a priest…
You have a chance?
I creid.
We(myself and my cat, Shadow) like coming here to read about some of the ways we could be better and good general information.
Been here for awhile now and plan on sticking around for a little while longer.
Grats on 500 BTW
@ Guy I just checked expose weakness is a magic debuf. Cloak of the Newbie will remove it and immune them to it for several seconds…. that sucks
Guy, I’d really like to hear the answer to that.
Statements like “Cloak of the Newbie” posted by Anons don’t bring anything valuable to an interesting question. Perhaps he should respond to Guy on the WoW forums where that trite belongs.
A couple of points:
1. CloS is not 100% immunity. I suggest reading a tooltip for a change. It’s 90%. Reading FTW.
2. Arcane Shot is Arcane damage, which of course is magic damage. There is a chance that the CloS didn’t block the Arcane shot, but did block the EW proc.
Look at it this way Guy. Don’t be angry EW didn’t proc, be happy your Arcane Shot got through
for the dummies like me
proselytize
pros·e·lyt·ize to convert or attempt to convert as a proselyte; recruit.
and yes i did have to look it up =P
Adrus
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=34501
Expose weakness is a Magic debuff. Your crit guarantees that the debuff (which is magic, arcane if I read this correctly) will proc off your ranged critical strikes, but the magic effect itself can still be resisted by the rogue if he did in fact have CloS up.
100% guarantees that the game tries to apply the debuff to the target, it does not mean that it will always apply it successfully. Similar situation as to when a shadowbolt crits a rogue who has CloS up, but the improved shadowbolt debuff does not proc.
The best answer I’ve gotten yet..
I still have questions about this though.
And btw BRK, I finally actually read what this blog entry was about…
It’s a Celebration Bitches!
I still have questions about this though.
Like what? Or are you just trying to come to grips with the prospect of not ALWAYS having EW up?
-Chris
Well..
If EW is an Arcane spell, can it be resisted with AR?
If this was cloak of shadows at work, is it really realistic that the Arcane shot hit, but EW “missed”
Should the tool tip be modified to say something along the lines of “100% chance to try to apply an EW effect with a certain chance to fail”?
If that’s what happens to locks… then does their shadow bolt crit? Or is it resisted? Is their effect “missed” or resisted?
I guess that’s it Chris, It should have been up. (granted I was going to die anyway) but it wasn’t! so WTF.
WTF.
Just saying it missed in my combat log pisses me off. WHY did it miss when it has a 100%chance to apply?
It should also be noted that Sub spec rogues (those were the days /sigh) have additional resistances to spell, AoE and ranged attacks that are active at all times.
Ontherocks is correct. Be glad your Arcane shot got through.
In other news, CloS isn’t hard to deal with, it only lasts 5 seconds and the rogue is still vulnerable to plenty of other tricks/attacks.
The key is to make him use it on your terms. Rogue PvP is all about cooldowns. Duel a rogue and ask him not to use any, then duel again and ask him to use all of them (or even just 2-3)… the difference is night and day.
Statements like “Cloak of the Newbie” posted by Anons don’t bring anything valuable to an interesting question.
So you’re one of those people who thinks that attaching a name to a post automatically increases its value? I suppose it is no wonder, then, that you keep posting.
One of the questions he just might have is, say, “Why does it say a magic effect missed when it was resisted, while all spells that actually miss are said to have been resisted?”. Maybe.
/salute
Beast Master Third Class…
Awesome, Tinwhisker gets it. He understands that CloS isn’t an iWin button, or God-Mode. It’s a chance to survive against a caster/kiter, similar to how Blink is gives Mages a chance to survive should a rogue get the drop on them. There is a lot more that could be said, but I’ll leave it at that.
@ Guy
If EW is an Arcane spell, can it be resisted with AR?
It would take a metric shit ton of AR to have a 90% chance to resist a buff that is supposed to proc 100% of the time.
If this was cloak of shadows at work, is it really realistic that the Arcane shot hit, but EW “missed”
Absolutely. Likely…No. Possible…Hell yes. It’s mathematics, so it’s possible.
Should the tool tip be modified to say something along the lines of “100% chance to try to apply an EW effect with a certain chance to fail”?
If it will help you sleep at night, yes. But otherwise, I don’t think the tooltip is too misleading.
If that’s what happens to locks… then does their shadow bolt crit? Or is it resisted? Is their effect “missed” or resisted?
If the bolt lands and crits, then the buff CAN land. But if the bolt is resisted, well…then there is no chance to apply the buff.
-Chris
“Why does it say a magic effect missed when it was resisted, while all spells that actually miss are said to have been resisted?”
There have been multiple occasions where the tooltip or combat log have used the wrong terminology to denote a game mechanic. Most recent in my mind has to do with CloS actually; the tooltip listed it as a “dispel” effect when the properly working game mechanic was not a dispel at all.
Oversights and typos abound in the game that do not affect the intended mechanics of play. What the combat log may report to you as a “miss” might actually be a resist.
I read this somewhere, and I’m sad to say that I don’t know who to credit it to- (if someone knows, please post) but-
Anonymity + Audience = F@#$wad.
Now I don’t like cussing, and I think that Mr. Anonymous has something good to say- but really. Add a name! We want to know who you are. Anonymous posts are like…. anyone heard of “barking spiders?” you know, when someone farts or belches and won’t take credit for it so it’s attributed to “barking spiders?” that’s what anonymous posts are like.
i hence forth dub all anonymouns posters “barking spiders!”
anyway, that’s just what i think.
/shy
/shuffles away
So you’re one of those people who thinks that attaching a name to a post automatically increases its value?
Yes.
I suppose it is no wonder, then, that you keep posting.
If BRK asked me to return to lurking, I’d oblige. Not really sure what you’re saying here anyway.
One of the questions he just might have is, say, “Why does it say a magic effect missed when it was resisted, while all spells that actually miss are said to have been resisted?”. Maybe.
This however is an excellent question.(see…I can credit an Anon too, but why should I) And I missed what Guy was saying about the “miss” when I responded.
If I had to guess, I’d say there is an error in the message it gives you when it’s resisted by CloS. It’s incorrect, and it wouldn’t be the first time.
*Lurkerfield Decloaking*
@vix&grit
That formula is John Gabriel’s Greater Internet ****wad Theory.
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19
-DocGuyver
*Lurkerfield Recloaking*
Congrats, BRK. Guess this is an auspicious day for me to become a habitué of this blog. Have been enjoying your WI columns for a couple months now.
Talonis & Talon, Kul Tiras-A
ok- DocGuyver, you’re the shizz. That’s decloak thing is the funniest thing i’ve seen in a week. (sorry big red, you’ve been more techy and less funny lately.)
Congratulations!
Stupid BRK! Be more funny!
Congratz for reaching this milestone, BRK!
@guy and the other guys:
You are kind kidnapping this thread. I think the disussion was worth its own thread if - if it wasn’t a survivalist’s problem
Anyhow, I like hanging around over here, just because it’s the coolest WoW-related place that my company hasn’t blocked (yet).
Congratulation on your 500th post. That’s a big accomplishment as posting blog entries and doing the research while posting stuff is no easy task to do on BRK daily and multiple times daily sometimes.
Congratz to a well written Hunter Blog for all Hunters and recovering Huntards all over. Other non Hunter class reads here daily too, even if we don’t always comment been a non Hunter class some of us, we just love to read BRK and show some Hunter Love. If anything else we may just read for the HUMOR!
Congrats to BRK for Cruising the Beat with his Big Bad Red Police Cruiser and arresting Huntard addics yaking their Lisence to kill, slapping them around and sending them to recovering Huntards Ward to recover and become World Class Hunters.
Congrats!! Now feed Hobbes a Steak!