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	<title>Comments on: When We Say &#34;Gear Out Buddies!&#34; We Mean, Gear Our Buddies</title>
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		<title>By: Zemulos</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/08/01/when-we-say-gear-out-buddies-we-mean-gear-our-buddies/#comment-4968</link>
		<dc:creator>Zemulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 14:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelek, perhaps I misunderstood this statement...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;" If the tank keeps moving, the adds rarely catch up, and by using the oval-moving method we're usually out of the flame trails. "  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I interpreted this to mean that the tank was outrunning the adds while kiting the boss.  Else who would they be catching up to?  If they're catching up to the other four party members, then the tanks oval pattern isn't effecting them at all.  BUT, I want to say if you are clearing this hussy, more power to you :)  I gave up on her invincible-add-toting-ass.  BTW... is it even possible to kill the adds?  Does ANYone do this?  Since the speed increase the adds got in patch 2.1.3 or whatever patch it is now, they are just everywhere at once it seems.  /sigh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelek, perhaps I misunderstood this statement&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8221; If the tank keeps moving, the adds rarely catch up, and by using the oval-moving method we&#8217;re usually out of the flame trails. &#8221;  </p>
<p>I interpreted this to mean that the tank was outrunning the adds while kiting the boss.  Else who would they be catching up to?  If they&#8217;re catching up to the other four party members, then the tanks oval pattern isn&#8217;t effecting them at all.  BUT, I want to say if you are clearing this hussy, more power to you <img src='http://www.bigredkitty.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I gave up on her invincible-add-toting-ass.  BTW&#8230; is it even possible to kill the adds?  Does ANYone do this?  Since the speed increase the adds got in patch 2.1.3 or whatever patch it is now, they are just everywhere at once it seems.  /sigh</p>
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		<title>By: Wisp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wisp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 09:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How we kill Sepethrea, with about an 80% first kill average each run.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;1) Stick together (tho this usually falls apart towards the end of the fight!)&lt;br/&gt;2) Get the adds to one end of the room and when they start to nova - every one legs it to the other end of the room.&lt;br/&gt;3) Beat up boss, the adds should about reach you when they are ready to nova again, leg it to the other end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How we kill Sepethrea, with about an 80% first kill average each run.</p>
<p>1) Stick together (tho this usually falls apart towards the end of the fight!)<br />2) Get the adds to one end of the room and when they start to nova - every one legs it to the other end of the room.<br />3) Beat up boss, the adds should about reach you when they are ready to nova again, leg it to the other end.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelektra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelektra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 22:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but that's not what i said, was it. i just said that the tank kited sepethrea around the room, and we all followed. i said nothing about the adds other than we ignored them :)  of course they have random aggro patterns, hence my saying that we were usually out of the fire trails.  this isn't an "i've done this more than you so sit down and shut up" from either of us, i agree with you, and am simply stating the way that it has always (before, and after the most recent patch) worked for my guild and those i run with :)&lt;br/&gt;as i mentioned, the tank that i most often run with is a feral druid, as am i, but in this situation I will usually act as off healer, when the need arises, case in point the tranquility. works like a charm :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but that&#8217;s not what i said, was it. i just said that the tank kited sepethrea around the room, and we all followed. i said nothing about the adds other than we ignored them <img src='http://www.bigredkitty.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  of course they have random aggro patterns, hence my saying that we were usually out of the fire trails.  this isn&#8217;t an &#8220;i&#8217;ve done this more than you so sit down and shut up&#8221; from either of us, i agree with you, and am simply stating the way that it has always (before, and after the most recent patch) worked for my guild and those i run with <img src='http://www.bigredkitty.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> <br />as i mentioned, the tank that i most often run with is a feral druid, as am i, but in this situation I will usually act as off healer, when the need arises, case in point the tranquility. works like a charm <img src='http://www.bigredkitty.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Zemulos</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/08/01/when-we-say-gear-out-buddies-we-mean-gear-our-buddies/#comment-4911</link>
		<dc:creator>Zemulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 19:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelek, I've probably done more runs of heroic mech than half the people here combined.  And every group always wants to try it cause... they like repair bills.  The elems randomly attack people throughout the party during the encounter.  That is a fact.  I've tanked it and been dps as my hunter.  If you stack fire resist and it works, amen.  But I don't use fire resist for anything else in the game, so not likely to ever have a set of it.  They simply do not aggro the first person in the room and follow them around like they used to.  Nor can you have someone draw aggro, then run into the hallway, having the tank pick up the boss before she hits the glass to reset.  That has been fixed.  They're about to nerf the fight for a reason.  In the interest of clarity for the other readers, the tank CAN NOT kite the elems around with the boss.  It does not work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelek, I&#8217;ve probably done more runs of heroic mech than half the people here combined.  And every group always wants to try it cause&#8230; they like repair bills.  The elems randomly attack people throughout the party during the encounter.  That is a fact.  I&#8217;ve tanked it and been dps as my hunter.  If you stack fire resist and it works, amen.  But I don&#8217;t use fire resist for anything else in the game, so not likely to ever have a set of it.  They simply do not aggro the first person in the room and follow them around like they used to.  Nor can you have someone draw aggro, then run into the hallway, having the tank pick up the boss before she hits the glass to reset.  That has been fixed.  They&#8217;re about to nerf the fight for a reason.  In the interest of clarity for the other readers, the tank CAN NOT kite the elems around with the boss.  It does not work.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauchis</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/08/01/when-we-say-gear-out-buddies-we-mean-gear-our-buddies/#comment-4905</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauchis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 18:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For Sepethrea, an off-healer is nice if you don't have the DPS to take her down quickly. Before I got super geared up, I'd drop shadow and get into my heal gear and help the other healer in the group heal.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Nowadays, I stay in shadowform and pew pew her down. (VE does help the healer out quite a bit.) And we try to kite the elementals around the room a lot. =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Sepethrea, an off-healer is nice if you don&#8217;t have the DPS to take her down quickly. Before I got super geared up, I&#8217;d drop shadow and get into my heal gear and help the other healer in the group heal.</p>
<p>Nowadays, I stay in shadowform and pew pew her down. (VE does help the healer out quite a bit.) And we try to kite the elementals around the room a lot. =)</p>
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		<title>By: Zemulos</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/08/01/when-we-say-gear-out-buddies-we-mean-gear-our-buddies/#comment-4875</link>
		<dc:creator>Zemulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the kings defender for tanking (sun eater hasn't dropped for me)  Opinions on which is better?  I like the hit rating.  God knows tanks need it.  Average epic tank hit rating... 5-15?  /puke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the kings defender for tanking (sun eater hasn&#8217;t dropped for me)  Opinions on which is better?  I like the hit rating.  God knows tanks need it.  Average epic tank hit rating&#8230; 5-15?  /puke</p>
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		<title>By: Kelektra</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/08/01/when-we-say-gear-out-buddies-we-mean-gear-our-buddies/#comment-4874</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelektra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>zem.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;your assumption is incorrect. try it. :)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;kel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zem.</p>
<p>your assumption is incorrect. try it. <img src='http://www.bigredkitty.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>kel.</p>
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		<title>By: For the Pie</title>
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		<dc:creator>For the Pie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OOO nice sword.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That's..very nice for stamina...very nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOO nice sword.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s..very nice for stamina&#8230;very nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Snukums</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snukums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 14:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn, I just started tanking H. Mech and after three attempts no Big Ass Sword That Eats Suns for me&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Goiod badges and Nether though</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, I just started tanking H. Mech and after three attempts no Big Ass Sword That Eats Suns for me</p>
<p>Goiod badges and Nether though</p>
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		<title>By: tinwhisker</title>
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		<dc:creator>tinwhisker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 14:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She's a pain in the but but certainly beatable. Give her a couple tries but if you can't down her, forget about it. You'll already have 4 badges from a very short instance and the oh-so-wonderful Primal Nether.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And about the rogue comments yesterday:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yes, I'm a combat sword rogue (easy armory find). And everyone gets to spec however they want (we have 5 rogues: covering all specs/weapons except subtlety). We run two groups through Karazhan every week, I DPS in one and heal in the other.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yes, mutilate is just as good for raid damage as combat (certain fights/mobs excepted).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We try to take 2 rogues in every Karazhan raid because it's safe, reliable, high DPS (much like a hunter :P).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I was just sharing what works for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#8217;s a pain in the but but certainly beatable. Give her a couple tries but if you can&#8217;t down her, forget about it. You&#8217;ll already have 4 badges from a very short instance and the oh-so-wonderful Primal Nether.</p>
<p>And about the rogue comments yesterday:</p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;m a combat sword rogue (easy armory find). And everyone gets to spec however they want (we have 5 rogues: covering all specs/weapons except subtlety). We run two groups through Karazhan every week, I DPS in one and heal in the other.</p>
<p>Yes, mutilate is just as good for raid damage as combat (certain fights/mobs excepted).</p>
<p>We try to take 2 rogues in every Karazhan raid because it&#8217;s safe, reliable, high DPS (much like a hunter :P).</p>
<p>I was just sharing what works for us.</p>
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