Wednesday Afternoon Musings
Our WoW Insider column is done and it’s being proofread. Thank you TJ, our BRK Executive Assistant. She’ll complain about our commas, just you watch.
Simple Attumen, Moroes and Maiden run for some newly-keyed guild members and we were happy to provide massive quantities of sustained, ranged DPS for them. All bosses down, no real problems. Well, healing and cleansing on Maiden was troublesome, but they were new and BRK and Brigin were there to keep everything in check.
Maiden’s curse nuked a few people before the main tank was smooshed and Brigin took over. Of course some Boomkim chain-critted at just the wrong time. Maiden smashed her way over to the druid ready to do some Impure-Thought buttkicking, but Brigin sauntered over, casually bellowed, “COME BACK HERE!” while doing something Tanky, grabbed Maiden by the hair and dragged her back to the center of the room where we burned her down. People, there is nothing better in the game than a competent tank. So sayeth BRK, so let it be done.
After Attumen and before Moroes, the raid brought in a shadow priest. We didn’t notice - even with Vampiric Embrace pumping us full of mana - until we were about three pulls away from Maiden. Paying Attention FTW.
We’re not sure if mages die a lot because they wear cloth or if the wear cloth because they die a lot, but d@mn did our mage die a lot. Like on every AoE pull. Splat, sploot, splosh, dead squishy all the frickin’ time.
We have requested a dungeon guide from a new hunter-blogger. He said he knew everything there was to know about Deadmines, so we’re putting him to the test. Seriously. We’re quite excited; the rough draft looks very promising.
Edit: We were right, she loathed our commas. Also, we were bumped up in the rotation. BRK on WoW Insider is available right now!
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Our squishy warlock dies on every aoe mob pull. Poor poor Imnot, dead every time.
Mages die usually cause a healer isn’t doing their job on the pull. The tank isn’t doing their job on the pull. (EG. gathering up the adds and aoe taunting yes bears 2)
Sometimes the mages spells are resist but the threat is still there thus they get squished.
Our mages die alot due to mobs breaking sheep and running straight at the mages who then curl up in the fetal posistion or pray that they dont get 1 shotted while the sheep is being reapplied.
Good mages can AOE just out of range of the group and take the odd hit. The bad ones jump right into the middle of the group.
BRK. A tip to help your mages. On AOE pulls (specifically the ones to get to moroes room if you go up the stairs). Lay a slow trap at the top of the stairs. Your mages will luv you for it. Ours sure do :p
Put power word shield on the mage, let the debuff wear off, as it’s wearing off toss on a HoT and pull, get ready to reapply the shield as soon as the first one is broken through.
That’s what we ask our priests to do for AOE pulls which seems to work great as long as the tanks are trying to grab whatever initial aggro they can as the mobs are entering the AOE area.
For the record - I take no responsibility for BRK’s commas in his later-to-be-posted article. I will have nothing to do with his commas. I wash my hands of his commas. He fancies himself Twain-like in his comma usage/non-usage. I know how to use a comma, I just can’t be bothered with his as the task would cause me to develop a twitch. Again, I take no responsibility for the comma-age.
Resto Shammy … I keep mages alive on aoe pulls,
SS totem + Earth Shield on mage + spam LHW = happy mage
In response to anonymous…
I was the resto shammy healer for this. I power charged my earthshield so it would heal for 800 a tick. Healing stream totem for 150 a tick. My Magma totem blasting to try to get aggro off of him. My earthbind totem to slow them down. I was starting my big heal as they came running towards us and spamming LHW on him non stop throughout the fight. I could not keep him alive more than every other pull even with all that. He was just extra squishy.
Last raid guild I was in, our Kara team had a mage that never died. He was awesome at mage-ing it up. Of course his wife was the priest in the group.
Best thing was when he did died, EVERYONE knew he was in the doghouse for something so it was pick on Mezmer(the mage) on vent night then.
A Paladin can do wonders gathering up an AoE pull. My mages hardly take damage, let only die.
Pull with Avenger’s Shield, throw down a Consecrate, run down the stairs, charge up a Holy Wrath, and drop another Consecrate. They stick like glue.
You can even have a Holy Paladin do it, he just won’t have Avenger’s Shield for the pull. Make sure he’s running Righteous Fury. Most Holy Paladins take the improved version in the Prot tree for PVP Healing.
The tank’s fault for not AoE taunting, eh? Especially us bears?
Glad my raid doesn’t wait 10 minutes between AoE pulls on the way to Moroes or anything. Does yours? Or was that just not bothering to check cooldowns?
Yeah… Pally tank FTW, or just keep those AoE stacked and a shield on the mage.
I’d rather be tossing my hurricane and further slowing down hits on the squishy, than trying to keep ahead of AoE threat on a few mobs in a mass pull.
But whatever works for you, right?
sigh. Vampiric TOUCH for mana, Vampiric embrace for HEALTH.
If I, a priest, can keep track of the hunter shots that can help me, is it too much to ask the hunter to know what affects him? Sheesh.
(grin)
Kirk
Zingiber (among others) - Undermine
I’m going to throw it out there that there are no AoE pulls in Kara outside of Illhoof’s imps. Unless you’ve got a very good mage, or a healer willing to babysit your AoE’s to the exclusion of all else. it’s safer and easier to just assist train everything. Yes, even those pulls of six ghosts in the ballroom. There’s no timer on them, or need to kill them all at once, AoE just makes it more likely that your mage faceplants before the pull is over.
It’s true that we’ve had the most success killing 3 or 4 individually and AoEing the rest.
Amen Austin. I was about to rip into Seper for being another one of those people that likes to tell others how to play their class. It especially irks me when it’s directed at tanks. Prot warriors have one aoe taunt, it’s on a 10 min cooldown, just as Austin said. I’m not wasting my taunt on non elites, thanks, I’ll save it for the accidental pull of elites or for an emergency. And we have thunderstomp… oh yeah, approx 75dmg to all enemies, THAT will SURELY hold all the mobs on me despite the 1500dps the aoeing mage is doing… Maybe the mage should have frost nova’d and killed them before it ended? >_<
@Honors Code - Amen Brother, no mages die in my pulls, let alone get aggro!
@shutter - …unless you have Pally tank my friend.
@ kruncs…your warlock should not be so squishy lol…stamina is your friend.
@ everyone talking about whose fault it is when people die on their pulls…I’d say if you fire off a huge AoE and then get mobbed and die…kinda not anyone’s fault but yours.
BRK your post is making me miss Kara…I’ve had to cut raids from my schedule because of an ongoing family emergency. We had *just* put Kara on farm when I left, and I wanted to cry lol.
Yea your Warlocks need a lot more stamina, that’s their bread and butter on keeping DPS up some times.
I think my guild was the only one that didn’t do AoE for the trash before Moroes. Since there are 9 non-elite mobs, each one of the raid except one person gets a mob and kill it. Everyone can handle a single non-elite mob, right?
Of course, some kill faster than other (or other’s CC theirs if they can), so people who are free are to prioritize for mobs who are targeting Priests/Druids.
We only changed to “real” AoE’ing those mobs since last week when we had a body-pull and had to deal quickly with them
Tank doesn’t need healing. The mages and locks do. We don’t heal the tank much except for 1 HoT but the mages and locks are bubbled and PoM and HoT frequently.
Shadow priests contribute too. Since they can’t AoE well, they should help with healing to keep the mages and locks alive. Mage + Lock survive longer then.
And tell them to use their healthstones.
Lol silly mages….I am a mage and have run Kara quite a bit. The Key to AOE is to wait a sec so your tank can get some initial aggro a few seconds seem to work well as he does his tanking thing. mage makes sure he has a shield and goes at it. yes he will eventually pull them but at that point there wont be much left of them. then teh mage frostnovas moves away and starts it again. anyone comming at him shoudl be easily taken out instant becasue thier health will be real low at this point. So ya its the mages fault for dieing….but I’m not saying I havent died on those pulls a few times…lol