How To Blog and Survive
Here we have just a wonderful example of BRK’s very good friend The Diet Coke of Evil, shadow priest extraordinaire, teaching us all how to effectively blog for fun and profit:
Anonymous said…
what is the purpose of your spec? it doesnt look very strong for raiding/arena….
The Diet Coke of Evil said…
To teh Anonymous asshat: what’s the purpose of your comment? Grow some balls and get a clue. Write a comment in A.) the right corresponding catergory and not any random blog post. B.) Whats with the Anon shite? Are you not man enough to use your name? Are you scared to have that “holier than tho” judgmental finger pointed back at ya? Here is a hint, Grow sum balls and come back and talk to me. Otherwise stop wasting my time you gutless worm. /end rant
Folks, she’s a redhead; her picture is prominently displayed on her blog. She is known as the Diet Coke of Evil. Her blog is titled “Vee Vil Haf Compliance”, for cryin’ out loud, (VVHC is yet another BRK Copyrighted Witticism, graciously donated to the DCoE because we love and fear her tremendously.) Ya gotta know that she’s not Safe!
Watch your step over there, OK people? We have enough problems with TJ either murdering or /sidling up to BRK readers, we don’t need the DCoE filling her basement with your corpses, too.
You try running heroic Shadow Lab with a murderous redhead who can’t get the blood out of her keyboard; it’s not fun.
TJ on 30 Aug 2007 at 7:33 pm #
How many times do I have to tell you! It was only ONE! I only /sidled at ONE!
Sonvar on 30 Aug 2007 at 7:36 pm #
Man that was funny to read. You all keep me entertained throughout the day.
Sonvar on 30 Aug 2007 at 7:41 pm #
Also I’m not sure if you saw this or not but your bet with tj even got put on Wowinsider. http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/29/the-joy-of-grinding/
Along with that they made a TJ tag which I’m not sure if that means they figure they’ll have further stories regarding her or not.
For the Pie on 30 Aug 2007 at 7:47 pm #
Heck I am 6′4″ and she won’t sidle up to me. I am sad.
BRK on 30 Aug 2007 at 7:51 pm #
BRK not know our bet with TJ was put on WI? Who do you think told ‘em all about the bet!
/score
Melnayo on 30 Aug 2007 at 7:59 pm #
Her explanation of her build comes across… rather lacking in detail.
She also apparently doesn’t understand what it means to be anonymous. The question stands on its own regardless of who is asking it. If she can’t answer it, isn’t it more honest to admit that than to attack the poster?
Perhaps the purpose of her response was to deliberately be rebarbative, in which case i can’t debate its success.
Megan on 30 Aug 2007 at 8:06 pm #
In regards to the outburst response, I think it was a bit too defensive. The Anon comment could’ve been genuinely trying to help/gather more info. I’ve looked up said Shadow Priest on Armory and I find myself also having the same questions. If I had posted a comment inquiring about the spec, would I have got the same response? Flipside, if I had got a comment on my blog about any of my toons’ specs, I would answer with info and facts.
It’s not like the comment is out of the blue—there’s a previous post (on said Shadow Priest’s blog) about forming an Arena team and “trying on” Gladiator gear via Dressing Room, but a 1300 rating and a messed up spec (missing various essential PVP talents) makes it all hard to swallow.
/shrug
Sonvar on 30 Aug 2007 at 8:06 pm #
@melnayo
Regardless of Anon or not the person didn’t even explain why they thought her spec wasn’t right or provide any constructive opinions. Granted it got more than it deserved but I can’t entirely say it wasn’t justified.
RabidPoultry on 30 Aug 2007 at 8:07 pm #
If the point is lacking in compostion and basically says “blah blah u suck blah blah” and you don’t have the guts to even sign in or for that matter sign your name like a person who has long gotten out of diapers you deserve the reply IMHO. The interweb breeds anonymity or at least percieved, it is our job as humans to change that thinking and help people albiet a bit harshly but even being born in this world is painful, all lessons are painful.
gogogo DietCokeofEvil!!!!
TJ on 30 Aug 2007 at 8:11 pm #
In my opinion, the question was phrased in a snotty/confrontational way, and lack of a recognizable name certainly doesn’t lend any credence to the comment.
Melnayo on 30 Aug 2007 at 8:36 pm #
What is the purpose of knowing from whence a comment comes? You almost certainly won’t know the commenter personally.
“it is our job as humans to change that thinking“
Please post your job description. Mine didn’t say anything about that, and in fact the resume i submitted when applying for my job as a human specifically stated that i have no desire to attach names to everybody.
For your further enrichment:
Translated from Latin to English, “Ad Hominem” means “against the man” or “against the person.”
An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument. Typically, this fallacy involves two steps. First, an attack against the character of person making the claim, her circumstances, or her actions is made (or the character, circumstances, or actions of the person reporting the claim). Second, this attack is taken to be evidence against the claim or argument the person in question is making (or presenting). This type of “argument” has the following form:
1. Person A makes claim X.
2. Person B makes an attack on person A.
3. Therefore A’s claim is false.
The reason why an Ad Hominem (of any kind) is a fallacy is that the character, circumstances, or actions of a person do not (in most cases) have a bearing on the truth or falsity of the claim being made (or the quality of the argument being made).
Dustin on 30 Aug 2007 at 8:37 pm #
Well in my opinion, the answerer to the question didn’t win over anyone by acting in the same snotty/confrontational way. She took any point she thought she was making and nullified it pretty badly. Oh well though, she’s gotta deal with internet people all the time, so I understand.
Megan on 30 Aug 2007 at 8:41 pm #
Damn, melnayo “wins the thread” as they say in the WoW Forums.
The Diet Coke of Evil on 30 Aug 2007 at 8:44 pm #
/golfclap for Megan & Melnayo >.>
I have no problem with constructive criticism. I have no problem explaining my spec to anybody who isnt an asshat to me on my own blog. I would tell you that i am trying out new specs since forming the arena team to be better suited but before i shell out the gold over and over i am going over it with a talent calculator.
So to answer you question “If I had posted a comment inquiring about the spec, would I have got the same response?” the answer would be quite simply *Yes* if you have the “holier than tho” bitch-attitude towards me.
My other point:”Melnayo said…
Her explanation of her build comes across… rather lacking in detail.
She also apparently doesn’t understand what it means to be anonymous. The question stands on its own regardless of who is asking it. If she can’t answer it, isn’t it more honest to admit that than to attack the poster?
Perhaps the purpose of her response was to deliberately be rebarbative, in which case i can’t debate its success.
” I completely know what it means and i think being Anonymous is great when its used in the pursuit of good not being a jackoff and not having the balls to be critized back.
sonvar on 30 Aug 2007 at 8:45 pm #
@melnayo
Again the Anon person is in fault cause the title of the entry was “Annoyed” and they never explained why they thought the spec was bad
TJ on 30 Aug 2007 at 8:46 pm #
Well, you know, it was funny. DCoE is funny, and I’m sure that’s why BRK posted it - not so that his readers could have a field day denigrating one of his closest friends.
TJ on 30 Aug 2007 at 8:47 pm #
Yay DCoE!
/cheer
Sonvar on 30 Aug 2007 at 8:47 pm #
@tj
Agreed that was a funny rant
RabidPoultry on 30 Aug 2007 at 8:52 pm #
@ Melnayo
Job description has nothing to do with this in the slightest, the OP acted in a controversial way and got a suited response nothing more nothing less. The blame if there is one can be shared, BUT IMHO the OP should have done so from the get-go. This was and is NOT about the point being valid, it was about the manner in which it was presented, if you wrap a Diamond Ring in BS it won’t be well received. If that point is lost on you as you are splitting hairs in the debate so be it, I am not on this earth to change anyones mind, I merely state my point take it or leave it.
Rabid
Fiordhraoi on 30 Aug 2007 at 9:01 pm #
@ Melnayo
Let me refer you to “Audiatur et altera pars” for your further enrichment. In other words, state the premises of your argument, please.
To spell it out, I am not sure of your purpose of bringing logical argument rules into this. This was not an assertion made by the original poster which DCoE then “refuted” by means of an attack. To illustrate:
Person A - Why do you do a task X way?
Person B - I find your question to be issued with an attitude I find unacceptable, therefore I will not answer your question.
Note that there is no assertion of fact to start a logical debate by person A. Quite simply, there are no facts in debate here, therefore logical fallacies cannot occur.
Did the DCoE go overboard with her response? That’s a possibility, and something you’ll have to judge for yourself. But she’s certainly not guilty of illogic, at least not in the way you were implying.
TJ on 30 Aug 2007 at 9:03 pm #
Oooh I think we have a new winner!
Melnayo on 30 Aug 2007 at 9:12 pm #
I was considering how best to relate the concept of ad hominem and dismissing Anon’s question. You are correct on the point that she didn’t disagree with him but rather dismissed the question. I am hoping to suggest that the person being anonymous does not make the question unuseful, and using that as a reason for dismissal is, if not illogical, at least rude. It is not a perfect fit.
I concede to your triumph in pointing out that Anon was asking the question in a manner less than fully polite and got a response whose manner was entirely up to the choosing of the author.
Vorian on 30 Aug 2007 at 9:26 pm #
was the one /sidled at, and the only one to survive.
All the rest were murdered as BRK suspected. They were weighed, they were measured, and they had been found wanting. Hence why they had been let loose of thier mortal coil, at a speed faster than the max velocity of an unladen swallow, by TJ’s GODDESS like poweres of destruction.
Shay-Tom now snacks on thier rotting flesh when he is hungry, and uses the eye sockets in thier skulls to relieve any pent up demon frustrations that he may have.
Melnayo on 30 Aug 2007 at 9:33 pm #
I apologize for being so argumentative. I do get worked up when someone suggests that being unnamed makes one irrelevant, as if arbitrary, self-chosen internet names immediately improve the value of their owners’ words.
I have no real issue with her reply, but hearing that as part of the reason chafed. I let myself get emotional about it. Sorry about that.
Fiordhraoi on 30 Aug 2007 at 9:35 pm #
@Melnayo
Okay, I see now. I suppose you could argue that this situation and an Ad Hominem argument have some commonalities, I just missed the simile, so to speak.
I don’t believe that the anonymous thing was more of a supplemental irritation - if the question had been good, no problem. Since the question was phrased in an insulting manner, with the title of “annoyed,” the anonymous nature of the poster was just salt in the wound, so to speak.
Fiordhraoi on 30 Aug 2007 at 9:36 pm #
Fruedian slip there - “I don’t believe” should be “I do believe”
Jammerz on 30 Aug 2007 at 9:40 pm #
My take FWIW….
Anonymous posts(or posting on an unknown alt in other forums for that matter) cause people to take you less seriously for a number of reasons. The OP is questioning the build of the blogger in a rude fashion without giving a name that could be looked up on armory in order to help the blogger respond and start a healthy discussion. Builds have been questioned in such ways before only to find out that the person questioning had the same exact build or worse.
The response was harsh, but the everything about the blog including the name sets people up to be aware that it could be that way from time to time.
I, myself, give no credence to anon posters and would probably have responded in a like manner.
My $0.02.
Jammall - Gorgonnash
RabidPoultry on 30 Aug 2007 at 9:43 pm #
@ melnayo
/cheer
No worries from me.
Discussion is good even if it gets uncivil sometimes.
The Diet Coke of Evil on 30 Aug 2007 at 9:48 pm #
As i have already stated, i have *NO* problem with people posting with Anonymous when it is pursuit of good. MY problem is that with some people, its an all access pass to troll and be an asshat.
To the me being “rude” comment…Hell yeah I’m rude. From my 1st blog post i stated that I am rude and have a low tolerance for people. You don’t come to my zone, be an @sshole expect me to smile and take it.
Megan on 30 Aug 2007 at 9:57 pm #
Maybe it was in the pursuit of good. :p
Sometimes the best wakeup calls are short, blunt and to the point—you know, surgical cuts that expose the real root of the problem and aim fix it—abrasive, yes, not always pleasant, yes, very helpful in the big picture.. yes.
But we’ll never know now, doh.
Stephi on 30 Aug 2007 at 9:57 pm #
@DCoE -Think of it this way babe. You got your first Troll!
Celebrate! Usually it means you’ve made it to Blogging Big Time if you got someone who took enough time out of their busy(not) schedule to be a total a$$hat. ^.^
I know I got my bottle of Bailey’s Caramel chilling in the fridge to celebrate my first trollage. ^.^
~ Cay
The Diet Coke of Evil on 30 Aug 2007 at 10:24 pm #
if you believe it was in the pursuit of good then your view on whats considered good is waaaay off killter or your on sum killer drugs and not sharing
anywho…
your totaly right Cay..my ball and chain brought home some wine tonight and gonna celebrate my first troll.
Melnayo on 30 Aug 2007 at 11:05 pm #
Maybe a response from DCoE is so good that anything intended to elicit one would count.
graypanther on 31 Aug 2007 at 12:46 pm #
/popcorn
Anonymous on 31 Aug 2007 at 1:22 pm #
Funny thing about these blogs… the one who’s created it could allow members only to post comments. Considering that BRK and DCoE have both left it open to Anons to share random thoughts about their postings yet attack anyone signing as simply Anon seems as though they are looking for a fight. The only profit being made here is google for these people forcing others to create an account to feel worthy to post a comment to a blog about a game.
If you seriously have a problem with an Anon comment then pull the right and keep your ranting attacks for those who make accounts to share their words with you.
And yes, I’m going to sign it *gasp* Anon.
Anonymous on 31 Aug 2007 at 2:02 pm #
@ Anon,
you, like so many of your brethern, have totaly missed the point. The point isn’t that they are posting with “Anonymous” it’s that people being “RUDE” and thinking that being “Anonymous” give you the right to be a jerk. I haven’t signed up nor do I plan to. But notice I am not making a big production like *gasp* you jackass.
-Twiggy & Piggywrath
Zemulos on 31 Aug 2007 at 2:36 pm #
Wow, this is impressive. The OP’s comment had a tone of rudeness. Bet lets not forget, not everyone is able to articulate well, and maybe the question looks worse than it’s meant to. If that’s the case, DCoE has attacked a person for no reason. The response was incredibly rude and confrontational. And the repeated use of the name “asshat” both in the original reply and on this site is a real sign of immaturity. You can’t put up a good arguement without hurling childish insults and name calling? For all you know, that poster may not have been able to sign up. I can’t sign up to BRK’s blog because I don’t have a google account and can’t set one up from work and I’ll not be visiting this site at home. I’ll either be playing wow or doing something else. I dont’ surf the web at home. So I continue to choose Identity - other and type in my name each time. If I didn’t, all my comments would come back as anon also. But like others posted, having a name to the poster does not immediately validate the comments. I just hope that wasn’t a 12 year old kid that was honestly looking for advice and didn’t realize that his/her comment looked bad on paper.
You know, people on this site have gotten irritated, argued with each other, etc, and I have done it as well. I can’t recall seeing ANYONE call names and act like that’s acceptable. Hey DCoE, grow up. Anyone who thinks talking to people in this manner is acceptable needs to think about how they’d like to be treated if the situations were reversed. Sure it’s funny to you now, when you’re not the brunt of the joke. What if your kid sister had written that and got that response? I’m not a bleeding heart. I don’t even like people in general. People piss me off. But I don’t condone such a pointless display of ignorance, and you shouldn’t applaud it either.
Necro on 31 Aug 2007 at 3:07 pm #
lol…She is the DCOE right…”The E stands for Evil”. Anyway I thought the response was 2 things.
1. Justified
2. Funny and in line with her character.
I read these different blogs because I like the different personalities and this one fits her.
As far as #1 above, well it was a very random comment with no meat to it in the wrong section of a blog of someone who has evil in her name and has red hair. Would someone without red hair and evil in their name give the same response….probably not, but that doesn’t mean she was unjustified.
DCOE, keep up the good work.
Teh Diet Coke of Evil on 31 Aug 2007 at 4:25 pm #
Zomg Zemulos has called me immature, rude, ignorant and to grow up QQ what ever shall i do /slit wrist >.>
First off, Get off your high horse and step away from the unreachable pedestal you have put yourself on.
I don’t give a rats furry behind if you post with anonymous. Thats the point i have trying to get across. It when people decide it is their all access pass to troll and be rude. You come at me with rudeness expect it back. I don’t have to smile and take it while you exhibit no respect for me in my own zone. Do I come to your blog and heckle you? No, I don’t. Do I do it to Brk? Yes, I do cuz that’s part of our relationship.
Could i have handled that comment better? Of course.Did i let my emotions get carried away instead of taking a deep breath and thinking calm? You bet your candy arse I did. I won’t deny or try and get out of my actions. I could of done better. BUT I didn’t. Just like I didn’t ASK BRK to repost my Comment. I was already annoyed with the day and the people who occupy it and I over reacted with the orginal poster and the people who commented on BrK. Will i apologize? Pfft..you are talking to the wrong person. And your right..I a rude. Also won’t deny that.
Contray to your thinking, I can complete a sentance without the use of slurrs. I have been the butt of many jokes and held my composure and laughed it off. But if you think telling me to grow up is gonna ruffle my feathers and make me a nicer person..boy are you talking to the wrong person.
I am not called Evil cuz i luv fluffy bunnies and luv each and every one of you annoying saps. Go preach to somebody who cares.
Ashtaar on 31 Aug 2007 at 4:59 pm #
And THAT’s why we read blogs and not newspapers. Let some corporate stooge be all PC and non-offensive.
Tell us what you really think, DCoE, that’s what we’re here for.
If it ain’t our cup of tea, that’s our own d*** fault for coming here, and staying long enough to comment.
Zemulos on 31 Aug 2007 at 5:18 pm #
This is not really worth the time to respond to anymore. Pathetic, rude, arrogant people. Learn some fucking courtesy.
In highschool, it was cool to insult people, that made you popular. Who knows though, maybe you’re still in highschool.
Anonymous on 31 Aug 2007 at 5:50 pm #
HAHA, now who isn’t keeping their cool? WoW Z,You can give your opinion and hurl insults but can’t seem to take them. Hypocrite much?
You,yourself, are being rude,arrogant and above all pathetic. Not only on this occasion but other times before.
Before you cast judgment on somebody else, look at your past actions. You are not so squeaky clean. Before you start to be a pompous oaf, look at the facts not just make an uneducated comment.
Slinging the “f” word around is real mature.
-Ginger ( long time reader and fan)
Teh Diet Coke of Evil on 31 Aug 2007 at 6:01 pm #
You are correct in one thing Zemulos, This really isn’t worth replying to or even giving attention to anymore.It’s turning into a “who can top who” e-peen contest. You are entitled to your opinion of me as I am of you.
To clear up this matter: No I am not still in high school nor do I think this makes me popular. I am guilty of throwing back what is thrown at me. So take your own advice and “Learn some fucking courtesy” as well.
Zemulos on 31 Aug 2007 at 6:09 pm #
First of all, I’m angry for the poor poster who was bashed. I could personally care less what DCoE thinks about me. I didn’t revert to calling names or making fun, I made several true statements however. That being rude, arrogant, etc. Pathetic was not a good choice of words. Pathetic was referring to how someone is unable to see the value of treating someone with respect. And if you will read my comments carefully before making your rebuttals, you’ll see that I said I too have lost my cool. So, No, I am not a hypocrite. Look that word up if you’re unsure what it means, thank you. Telling someone that they have been rude, for the record does not make me arrogant. Refusing to apologize to someone without knowing whether their statement was an innocent question or not is arrogant. Believing you have a god given right to be ignorant towards people because they made the mistake of asking a question on a blog is arrogant. And congratulations on being just like DCoE. You managed to call me a pompous oaf. At least it wasn’t asshat.
And as a final note, if using the f word makes one immature, I’m sure I am not the only one here that is completely immature. Curse words do not make you immature, calling people names, however does. How ironic that you don’t bother to post that what DCoE did was wrong in any way, but you turn around and bash someone who does?
I get angry, sure, just like other people do, I don’t deny it. But I get exceptionlly angry to see someone treated like shit who doesn’t deserve it. (omg I said shit… that must make me even MORE immature?) The whole point of my post to her was to say how wrong it is to talk to someone that way without provocation. She picked everything out of my post she could find so that she could make a new post insulting me /cheer. She feels validated in how she responded, and feels no remorse. Hooray for no morals?
And your entire post was aimed at doing the same things you jsut accused me of doing within the post. Now who’s the hipocrite?
Zemulos on 31 Aug 2007 at 6:14 pm #
DCoE YOU DID NOT THROW BACK WHAT WAS GIVEN TO YOU. You have NO idea what that poster intended. You totally overreacted, you owe that person an apology, seriously. For God’s sake, all I want to read about is hunter crap on this site. I don’t know why I bothered to get into this at all. Sometimes I just can’t keep my opinion to myself. >_<
It doesn’t speak well for ANY of us that we keep responding to this stupid shit! Don’t ANY of us have better things to do than argue and have pointless battles??
/anxiously waits to get home to play WOW and not be concerned with other trivial matters.
Teh Diet Coke of Evil on 31 Aug 2007 at 6:23 pm #
Dude..i fucking said i over reacted. PAY ATTENTION! I am not gonna appologize so get over it. Jesus christ drop the damn subject, its over. In writing the most boring comments and beating a subject into the damn ground, you win hands down.
/anxiously awaits for you to shut the hell up and move on.
ArmsandFury on 31 Aug 2007 at 6:30 pm #
Ahem…
Can’t we all (what’s that word for a dramatic pause again?) just get along?
What?
Oh, we can’t?! Well Mother*($&34!
/target
/Cast Charge
Remember ladies and germs…
There is NO substitute for good manners… except fast reflexes!
-Steven Brust
Zemulos on 31 Aug 2007 at 6:42 pm #
Must… resist… urge… to get in the last word…
just can’t
Anonymous on 31 Aug 2007 at 6:59 pm #
I know Ozma( or the DCoE as she is known by now) from Khaz and tho her temper runs high at times over all she has a good heart. Just lets her emotions get carried away when she is having a rotten day. Usually she has more reserve. She was an awesome GM and we miss her and the rest who have scattered to different servers. Glad you all are finding your way back to each other. My point is, she has said she was in the wrong. Let it go. It’s over and done with.
Keep up the good work Damh and the rest of PL who blog.
luv Zuli (BM all the way!)
Anonymous on 31 Aug 2007 at 7:08 pm #
Oh and I wanted to say and touch on the “asshat” subject.
Damh/Brk was the “Hunter/Asshat class leader” when we were all in PL on Khaz. Just an FYI.
Zuli
asshat on 31 Aug 2007 at 9:46 pm #
Did somebody call me?
BigGuns on 03 Sep 2007 at 6:52 am #
My main being a SP I was curious to checkout what the furore was. One thing that was clear to me, was that it was not obviously a raiding build. Silence is a waste of 3 talent points for a raider. Anything you’d use it on is immune. Likewise for blackout.
The anon poster could have been more constructive in his/her manner of expression though.
Xizang on 03 Sep 2007 at 11:03 am #
Pity the DCOE obviously closed her blog to people who are not invited.
I accidently stumbled across BRK seeking some totally different kind of information in the past. From here I found the way to all those bloggers from AC and I like each and every single one for the way they write, and the information that can be gathered there.
DCOE, i seek permission to continue reading your blog. It’s one of the few things that make my day at work…