Being WoW such a bitch on drops (thinking of a well known hunter and a long-time-wanted-still-not-dropped weapon!), if that’s the best he got so far, why skip it just because it’s Cloth?

That’s dumb reasoning: almost like “OMG: I’m 40, I have to ditch all leather items and replace every single piece of gear with mail items!”

-5 BRK points to BRK for not checking exactly *what* piece of cloth it was and joining the “OMG: Hunter with cloth: LOL” bandwagon…

I’m not the surv baby thankfully. Surprisingly enough alot of the better survival gear I have is BOEBLUE or 5 man. I’m back to BM chart topper right now you can check me at:

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Mannoroth&n=Shifttusk

I have some 25 man loot but not too much, just T4 shoulders (which I swap with arena2 for shorter fights), Dragonspine and the Legsies off of Doomlord Kazzak which are ssooooo hot. (like 191ap using agi gems not ap).

When I was survivalist I swapped my heroic neck for the JC crafter neck with 2 red sockets. I swapped my kara ring for a pathfinders band. 15 agil instead of haste on gloves obviously. I think I had my agi in the high 600’s unbuffed, this was before my new pants so that woulda been another 28 agil or so. I’d link our survivalist but I’m not sure if he wants me to. You can find it easily on the armory look for the other hunter in my guild that has the kazzak pants (scaled greaves of the marksman).

Surv looks like dookie on paperdoll. I drop from 35x dps unbuffed with good ammo to I think 301. My crit was rediculous though I was in the 34% area but I’m also at 26.8-27.4% as bm depending on shoulders. I can 100% say though don’t go speccing survivalist fully till you hit 25 mans. EW is way less effective than FI in Kara.

Our survivalist is right now 0/20/41 but I’ve been toying with the idea that 7/20/34 would provide better results. Just remember if you are going survivalist the Necklace of the Deep (JC) is like the best neck for raw agility. The kara ring is crap, as is 1k marks while garonas = sex. If your weapon has savagery get rid of it for survivalist although I support 35 agil over savagery for all builds. Get 15 agil on your gloves. You should also look at regemming +16ap to +8agil. I’ve pretty much done this on all my gear as BM and noticed more dps this way.

I recrently went from like mid 430’s agi 1800ap as BM with 23% crit to 541agil 1700ap 27%crit and I havent looked back.

I’m likewise at work and cant peep your toon. I’m taking a day off from raiding today to finish some stuff at work but maybe ill harass zem?

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Anvilmar&n=Zemulos

Rabid

/sip coffee
/slack at work

Unfortionatly no, when they did the combat ratings it went from 1% haste to 10 haste rating which is .95% haste right now at 70.

“While i have you in a good answering mood… HOW much hit rating can I give up again due to now having my troll weapon racial?”

I’ve seen conflicting things on the web but with regards to raid bosses the one that made most sense was since you’re firing with a level 71’s wepon skill you need “1 level” less hit rating to hit him so 1.2% or 120-121 hit rating. For reference I’m troll, use sunfury and with 120HR didn’t miss a single shot in 2 months of raiding on that kit. I now have the +bows etc pants off doomlord and have 359 weapon skill and still do not miss :). If you could find an acurate link on this i’d be astounded.

“And if I were (theoretically) to go SV, the surefooted talent adds 3%… so how much more hit rating could i then drop?”

8.6 needed to hit at “??”/73 boss with all attacks. -1.2 for the racial -3% for being a surv = 4.4% so 70-71 hit rating. But check the 1.2% on wepon skills. Its annoying though our SV bot is up to 744 agil unbuffed (like 950 in raid) and he’s now lagging with some other people gearing up. I’m hoping its not his playstyle. I’ve read many positive things about surv and my dps sure went up but his is falling rapidly.

Also, Rating Buster is really helpful (although on my Druid it never seems to know that STR increases attack power and instead says that x STR gives me y +healing).

/shudder

Ha! We make that same joke about the spelldmg buff in Botanica.

Also, I confess I’ve worn cloth shoulders (and belt) the odd time, because the +Agi kicked the everloving crap out of what I was wearing with leather, but it does beg the question: Agi on Cloth? The hell? Does it really do that much for your wand? I mean, granted, it’s low-level cloth, so maybe it’s still at a point where the wand is kind of relevant, but geez.

And since we’re talking about levelling gear, what the hell is with all the +Spirit? Do I look like a damned Resto Druid? Would it kill them to make a few more Agi/Stam items, or even, God forbid, Agi/Int? Pet survival is obviously FTW, and while I have fantastic mana regen, I’ve also got a pretty shallow mana pool. I’ve turned aside a couple of minor Agi upgrades because I’d be gaining +3 Agi but losing +8 Stam or +6 Int thanks to frickin’ Spirit. AAAAAAAARGH!!!!

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