BRK Movie, Take Two

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This time we try the Double-Misdirection Pet LoS Pull and Trap! Then we get two adds… will BRK survive? Can he use his pet’s aggro as a trapping aide? Will he get his ears scratched? Will we get some unsweet tea from Mrs BRK? We’re thirsty over here, ya know! OMG!

Full-size video available here.

We tried the export settings recommended by a video pro, uploaded the converted file to both YouTube and Google, and blech; it didn’t work. Stuttery and jumpy, just total cr@p. It’s very late, we went back to our original settings and are trying to upload it one last time before night-night time.

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35 Responses to “BRK Movie, Take Two”

  1. PopeOpium on October 12th, 2007 4:12 am

    BRK…
    That was delightful…
    No no no that was brillant…
    No, no…there is no word to describe it’s perfection; so I’m forced to make one up, and I’m going to do so right now…
    Scrumtralecent.
    Your videos are so Scrumtralecent, I can. barely. move.
    .
    .
    .
    Watching you play is like looking into the face of God and seeing him smiling back saying, “You are my most wondrous creation…”
    -All James Lipton quotes aside, you rock dude, I learn more and more each day and someday I hope to become the uber hunter of my guild thanks to your articles.
    I am born anew in your genius…

    -PopeOpium and Fangtastic
    (E-4 US Army Infantry)

  2. loronar on October 12th, 2007 4:17 am

    Quite the handling. It’s the unexpected events that makes a demo like that more interesting. Multitasking is great!

  3. Thomas on October 12th, 2007 5:06 am

    That’s the coolest stuff for hunters to learn from. You and hobbs deserve some mad props for the great job you do.

    Give yourself some extra special time with Mrs. BRK and bask in the knowledge that you are the Mac daddy.

  4. Syzygium on October 12th, 2007 6:35 am

    now all we need is the video on how to do the same thing without Misdirection, for the lower lvl hunters out there… :)

  5. Anonymous on October 12th, 2007 6:42 am

    BRK, all I can say is, thank you.

  6. Someone on October 12th, 2007 8:21 am

    Nice work as always, although the teaser in the post was not really a teaser! (Yes, this time I did read the post before watching the video).

    I mean, you’d have to be a LOUSY hunter not to be able to deal with 2 + 2 non-elite beasts!

    Also, a trick I sometimes use when dealing with casters (such as the ads) is to run to them and lay the trap right where one of them is: it will proc in 2 secs and freeze that one while I DPS the other, and thus I don’t need to have too much work running around to the proper place to “force” one into the trap: I force the trap into the mob instead! :)

  7. Lill on October 12th, 2007 11:11 am

    good tutorial… :)

    i’m saving this and passing it on to all the hunters i meet just in case quicktime deletes it… :)

  8. Anonymous on October 12th, 2007 11:55 am

    Most excellent vid… I really liked the fact that you managed to get into aggroing a few more, and just repeated the effort.

    Sure not hard mobs, but plenty useful instructions. I just hope I can learn to place my traps as well. Trapping is not my strongest ability.

  9. Sonvar on October 12th, 2007 12:05 pm

    I want to see how BRK responds when he gets Mrs. BRK aggro in the middle of a battle lol.

    No its a good video. I’m curious to see you put together a video of chain trapping in action either in Arathi Basin like you suggest training in or that whole chain trapping a talbuk to Halaa or even further than that if you want. Though unless you cut away for a bit I don’t think we want to see you chain trap a talbuk all the the way to Area 52 or Wildhammer Stronghold.

  10. Macdoug on October 12th, 2007 12:28 pm

    I’ve already converted one guildie to BM just by referring him to BRK, and vids like this can only help our cause. More classes need to know about the power of Hunter trapping!

    @someone - I hear what you’re saying about laying a trap directly in front of a mob, but I think BRK was trying to keep his range on the new add rather than aggroing it separately from Hobbes. I’ve developed a strong aversion to cozying up to any mob - my range is like my security blanket. Makes it tough to play warrior alts…

    I learned something else too - turning to keep all multi-shots on one mob. Who knew multi was sensitive to your field of view? Not this n00b!

    Thanks BRK.

  11. Toolio on October 12th, 2007 12:58 pm

    It freaks me out to see horde running around and not attacking you. So used to a PVP server I guess.

  12. Anonymous on October 12th, 2007 1:24 pm

    @toolio

    Yeah. That was extremely odd.

    People playing on carebear servers are missing out. The thrill of having to watch your back AND finish the mission is what makes the game exciting…

    That would bore me to death

  13. Zinoo on October 12th, 2007 1:31 pm

    A quick note on your current Nostromo n52 poll.

    I use one, I love it. Only complaint is, oddly enough, a lack of buttons. A healer at heart, I love having everything and anything on my bars. The 14 button pad (with modifiers, it can be 28) it’s sometimes not enough. Clever macros, and some clicking of buttons, helps me a lot.

  14. Grumpy on October 12th, 2007 1:45 pm

    added Visual representation to all the tips and tricks you help Hunters learn on this site is a nice touch BRK. You should think about doing more of these doing different Hunter stuff.

  15. pelides on October 12th, 2007 2:19 pm

    Hmmm. Sorry the settings didn’t work. Must be due to the fact that WoW only allows you to capture in highly compressed formats which YouTube/Google apparently amplifies.

    Grrr. Guess I’ll have to do some experiments.

    Why oh why can’t we use the DV/DVCPro NTSC or DVCPro HD codecs?!?!?! They’re built in as part of QuickTime and less processor intensive than either H.264 or MPEG-4.

  16. BRK on October 12th, 2007 2:22 pm

    More videos? Glad you asked for them. We’re really having fun with it.

    Tonight is our Kara run straight to Prince. We’ll see how many videos we can make.

    If we get one good one, we’ll be thrilled.

    As for the video settings, if you all remember the TJ Answers BRK Email movie, ours turn out just like hers when we used the “high quality” settings. Jumpy, laggy, just ugly.

    Some feedback on the high-quality version would be appreciated. We think one can see the combat text very nicely. Do we need to go bigger?

  17. 2ndworst on October 12th, 2007 3:50 pm

    @BRK

    u know, if u would have multiplied the coefficient of ur turned multi shot by the square root of the inverse function of the LOS trap and then added the hp of the 2 cobras divided by the number of times i used u or ur instead of the perfect english version …. u would have got .0000002 more dps out of that … learn to do the math eh …

    rofl …..ahhhhh, i crack me up

  18. To be Determined on October 12th, 2007 4:04 pm

    /pounds on the firewall at work

    nope…still not working.

    will ahve to wait till I get home

    /CRY

  19. RabidPoultry on October 12th, 2007 4:46 pm

    HI-Rez looks great, though I am on a Mac so ;)

    I tried to see who PM’d you during the footage but can’t make it out, bet it was TJ lamenting about Winterspring or something… wait never mind there was no caps involved.

    As for us lowbie hunters without Misdirection, I usually like someone jam the trap down the gullet of the add, and if I have 3 mobs have Catnip growl attack one, then switch him until growl and a few crits land on the other while I IMP him, then back up and unload, once in a while disengage gets popped since at level 39 thats my only recourse. As long as the mobs aren’t elites or too many levels (4 or more usually form my estimations) the trick works. After the fight its sit and eat Sagefish Delights (restores Mana and HP) love that little fish so far the best reason I took up fishing and cooking.

    Rabid & Catnip

  20. Rhust on October 12th, 2007 4:51 pm

    awesome job man, the video is good! I’m anxious to see something from kara tho

  21. pelides on October 12th, 2007 4:56 pm

    @rabidpoultry

    I like your style, man! Misdirect is ez-mode pulling. Back in the MC days, being a puller was a hectic job! No misdirect and you had to know exactly where the tank was standing so you could deliver the mob right to ‘em.

    Learning how to pull without Misdirect is a very valuable skill! If you can do that, you definitely earn your hunter’s license.

    Misdirect is Blizz’ way of finally being kind to hunters after years of pulling and dying. We deserve it.

    Plus it’s fun to misdirect to annoying little mages who have not enough common sense to watch their aggro. If they want aggro… I’ll help ‘em!

    If they’re gnomes, it’s even better because gnome’s dying is just about the funniest thing in the game.

  22. RabidPoultry on October 12th, 2007 5:01 pm

    @ pelides

    Thx! I still think I will do it this way when soloing even at 80, it is alot funner than the Misdirect route, I am not saying Misdirect won’t be used, because it will I just love the sheer terror of wondering if I am gonna die or not, good thing this game is not like Lineage 2 where you lose XP/Items upon death, I bet I wouldn’t try this so often then ;)

    Rabid

  23. pelides on October 12th, 2007 5:06 pm

    @BRK

    One thing to consider in your QT export settings would be to set your pixel dimensions to 640×480 instead. The 720×480 is an NTSC standard definition aspect ratio.

    NTSC monitors utilize elliptical pixels whereas computer monitors use square pixels. The actual pixel dimensions of a SD signal are 720×540, but computers use 720×480 to compensate for the different aspect ratios of the pixels.

    So, if you’re working with footage captured on a computer utilizing square pixels and using the 720×480 pixel aspect ratio for export, you’re actually squashing your image some and making yourself much squatter and stouter than dwarves normally are.

    Monitors usually use either a 16:10 aspect ratio of 4:3 aspect ratio. The 720×480 is a 3:2 aspect ratio which doesn’t exist in the broadcast world.

    So, for footage acquired using a DV camera you want to edit in a 720×480 environment, but with video captured from your comp, you should edit either in 720×540 or 640×480.

    I’m going to poke around using the Apple Intermediate Codec and see if I can get decent 1280×720 DVCPro HD footage out of my caps.

    Just a thought.

  24. Macdoug on October 12th, 2007 5:17 pm

    Re: video size and legibility -

    I think it looks perfectly adequate in high-quality. Combat text is clear. Would I wish for less compression so that I could see who’s sending you tells? Yes.

    Errrm, NO. I meant no.

    Kiting tutorials, please. Kara is cool to me, but also foreign and scary.

  25. Dagashai on October 12th, 2007 5:25 pm

    What did those poor cobras ever do to you?

    Go hunt something that deserves painful death. Like lawyers. Or gnomes.

  26. pelides on October 12th, 2007 5:25 pm

    OOOO! Video of the Aran fight would be cool! That is one of my favorite fights in the whole game!

    Also, trapping on Moroes would be a good video as well. Show those chain trapping skills in action!

    Prince video would be VERY boring though. Stay at max range, shoot, feign, refresh Hunter’s Mark, heal pet… rinse, repeat… collect phat epixz!

  27. 2ndworst on October 12th, 2007 5:26 pm

    have u guys noticed since last patch that MD is buggy ….

    ie:MD’s on Hydross bug on the transitions ….
    the other hunter would do 2 shots of MD on the first pull and the third pulled to him with full agro?? and in my case i would MD on the transition and all three MD shots were okay but then on my fourth shot, an autoshot with no crit, he came straight back to me with full agro??

    we have noticed this off and on since the last patch in both SSC and TK. anyone else?

  28. Someone on October 12th, 2007 5:33 pm

    rabidpoultry: “disengage gets popped since at level 39 thats my only recourse.”

    What about FD? Nice aggro dump on a 30 secs CD! Don’t be like a friend of mine who, now at 36, even forgets to FD to prevent death! :)

  29. pelides on October 12th, 2007 5:48 pm

    @someone (and all hunters)

    I’m going to say this yet again. I made a post today on my blog about this very thing.

    Feign Death is a tool to avoid getting aggro in the first place. Grabbing aggro is a very Bad Thing™ in a raid as it puts your healers and casters in jeopardy because the mob gets out of the immediate aggro range of the tank and the healers become prime aggro targets when you feign.

    When you feign and a mob is running at you.. DO NOT expect the aggro to back to the MT! Expect it to one-shot a priest or a druid and then watch the tank die.

    If you do grab aggro in a raid, the proper course of action is to high tail it back to the MT, pray for some heals along the way, and deliver your aggro back to the person best capable of dealing with it. Your MT.

    Think of it this way, when you grab aggro and feign and wipe a priest or other healer, you’re saving yourself a repair bill at the expense of others and wasting a huge amount of very precious raid time.

    In short, stealing aggro and not dealing with it properly is a supreme act of selfishness. You’re wasting people’s time and forcing them to farm gold for repairs for a mistake you made.

    if you steal, bring it back where it belongs and take the death if need be. Honestly, you brought it on yourself.

  30. Alan on October 12th, 2007 7:36 pm

    Very nice for those of us still learning. A video’s worth a thousand words.

  31. RabidPoultry on October 12th, 2007 8:17 pm

    @someone

    I have used FD, though for me it seems to fail a lot more often than Disengage, or I don’t notice the faliure rate of disengage because a Mob is busy trying to gnaw my face off ;).

    And I did write an email to BRK but I bet it got dumped in his last gmail cleaning frenzy. I will post it here since you all seem to be a bit more helpful (jk BRK)

    “Hey BRK,

    So I was grinding away out at Shimmering Flats last night, doing the quests and started to grind out the Baslisk Gazers for one of my Quests, now my question comes from the Mob being 5 levels above Catnip (my Ghost Saber cat) and I started to notice that Growl was resisted ALOT, so much that I suddenly started using my Chain Trapping/Concussive Shot/Jug Mana Pot rotation with a side order of disengage to try and give Catnip more time to get Growl to land. So what I am asking is this: Is there a formula that exists that rationalizes the failure rate of Growl on Mobs. Is it 4+ levels above? Just want to know so I can be better prepared to turn growl off, let Catnip claw the beejesus out of them and kite the mobs if need be since I will have growl off.”

    Not really relevant to Diseneage but in a round about way, since aggro from not having growl land affects us hunters.

    I will ready that article Pelides (adding you to blog rotation too seems TJ won’t post anymore)

    Sorry for the long winded blah blah

    Rabid & Catnip

  32. Anonymous on October 12th, 2007 9:27 pm

    @Rabid, I had assumed (on no evidence whatsoever) that it was similar to hit chance, i.e. not linear with respect to levels above you. Hit (miss actually) for instance, BRK says is 5.0% for same level 5.5% for + 1 level, +6.0% for +2 levels +9.0% for + 3 levels. Notice how these fat cat level 70s never discuss what it is to go up against a +4, +5, or +6 level mob? :-)

    NOTE: although BRK gives a formula which looks like it should work for higher delta levels than three, I have seen no evidence that any testing was ever done to find if it applies. There could just as easily be another formula for +4, +5 etc. (and it wouldn’t necessarily be more difficult for Blizzard to implement).

    If this is true, turning off growl isn’t going to help, since claw will have the same problem.

    Thank You Kindly,

    Corwyn
    for Kafsha and Shaelee

  33. RabidPoultry on October 12th, 2007 9:41 pm

    Awesome on that, I guess stick to Mobs that are 3 levels or so higher (non-elite), that level range seems to be the sweet spot for me.

    Thanks

    Rabid & Catnip

  34. Anonymous on October 12th, 2007 11:33 pm

    Loving the vids!

    We agree with the poster that recommended some lower level videos. We’ve managed to make it to 68 without ever kiting anything and frankly the whole process scares the heck out of us. Well Ghala at least. ;)

    Ghala and Cleo

  35. Traz on October 13th, 2007 8:39 am

    /cheer
    excellent video
    more! more!

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