Comments on: Can We Get a Hallelujah!

By: LUCAS

LUCAS — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:36:00 +0000

I was MM forever, switched to BM a few months ago to see what the hype was, switched back to MM about a month and a half ago, and recently switched back to BM.

The dps increase/decrease is vague. I can do just about the same dps with either spec, and I am the top dps in my guild.

Right now (Gruul on farm, doing Mag and TK) I prefer BM because: mana efficiency is better, controlling aggro is much easier, and one macro mashing is cake.

But, I am a MM deep down. I love the increased range, the retarded ap, the extra buffs through Int, and the zomg big numbers.

I have a Dragonspine Trophy and once I stack enough haste gear (hopefully a bunch from Zul Aman) I will go back to MM and steamroll as if I had serpents swiftness.

By: tirth

tirth — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:54:00 +0000

LOL! I am with you there..Yes we do drink mana like an alcoholic in at an open bar. I demand both of our shadow priest to be in my group that vamp. thing they have keeps me all good most of the time through fights maybe a pot or two if the fight goes longer than usual but its thump thump thump watch threat thum thump thump FD the turn the it up all the way for a bit untill I am back at the top of the meters..lol I have learned how to manage my mana alot more and yes after every fight I am right between the healers and the casters sucking down that blue water. Its the price we pay for doing our job right. I run with TSA and Hawk on at all cost in the larger battles and I also keep about 40 waters and 10 mana pots for those extra fun moments….lol

By: mmhunter

mmhunter — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:34:00 +0000

I was thinking about why I top DPS, even against BMs...is it that maybe other hunters are stingy on drinks and only shoot with viper on?

I out DPS all BMs so far, but I also leave hawk on and drink between fights with the spellcasters. A BM hunter relying on steady-auto with viper should never out DPS an MM using arcane and multi.

Yes we blow through mana at an unbearable rate, but that is what drinks are for. During a boss fight, chug a fel mana pot and you will not go OOM.

I light it up will all my extra mana draining shots whenever I can. As long as you learn to turn and use multi without breaking CC (as BRK showed in a recent video) you will be fine.

By: Tirth

Tirth — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:06:00 +0000

I agree with what MMHunter said. A well gear’d MM hunter can easily out DPS a BM in the long run and with far less distractions. There are still to many healers that are not going to heal your pet and the fact that if the BM hunters pet goes down he looses every bit of 25% of his damage then he has to step back and wait a few seconds to pull him back, pop a snack in, hit mend, and wait to through it back out,you can fairly say that MM is still your best bet for long duration fights. BM may be good for short times or if they have done a lil dirty deed for a priest just to have the extra heal every now and then but all and all a well geared MM will out DPS a well geared BM if they BOTH know what they are doing. My advise is to learn your cool downs work the rotations and stop depending on your pet for everything, they dont always stick around.

By: Ashlar

Ashlar — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:17:00 +0000

Well, I’m BM spec - and my fave group is to run with a tank, healer and 2 other hunters - one is MM and the other SV spec - we all get the beefit of each others buffs and tend to burn stuff to the ground at a ridiculous rate.
Upshot is that I’m not so bothered about whether or not I personally top the damage meters, as long as what ever we set our sites on dies, and dies quick…… and trust me - it does…

By: MMHunter

MMHunter — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:26:00 +0000

I just don’t get it. I’ve played both BM & MM specs for about 6 months each at lv 70, doing 5 mans, heroics, Kara, etc…and I easily top the charts with both specs (against equally blue/epic’d out mages, locks, rogues, and yes, even BM hunters). I don’t feel like I have the perfect shot rotation either, so I’m not so sure it’s my skill that wins out.

I do *more* damage as MM not having to worry about my pet so much, as well as the easier and longer lasting traps from 20 SV points which let me kill more and worry less about kiting & trapping.

I know this is the home of the BM, and I have learned a lot from you…but any MM hunter worth his salt can out DPS a BM when the day is done. All you have to do is get that AP & crit up (especially with BRK telling all the BMs to stack agility *yuck* who needs armor and dodge?) and you will rock the house. If you were just looking at a melee friendly boss fight, a BM may out DPS you…but during an entire instance, with better SV traps and surefooted hit rating, you should do very well.

By: Dancinglion

Dancinglion — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:37:00 +0000

As much as I am impressed with the top end DPS that BM puts out there, the spec seems unwieldy and random, not a refined precision tool that the MM tree offered. Scattershot, Silencing Shot, and Trueshot Aura all stacked together with very nice results. In essence, I switched a scalpel for a club. I can’t pull casters into my extra long ice traps, or stop a priest from healing anymore. I give my props to BM hunters, you guys rule the dps. And now I can see it for my self. In a raid enviroment, it is king for doing top end, sustained dps. However, for doing 5 man and 5 man heroics, I’d rather my old MM/SV build for precision control.

By: Pike

Pike — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:06:00 +0000

I have a secret… I love all the hunter specs like they were my kids or something… I could never choose just one…

(and I wonder why I’m always broke, hmm, maybe I should just be banned from the hunter trainers.)

By: Hawk

Hawk — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:44:00 +0000

I was totally hearing BRK’s voice in his reply. You should record that and post it.

By: Freejack

Freejack — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:39:00 +0000

Yogi Berra was a New York Yankee baseball player known for his Yogi-isms such as “I never said half the things I really said.”

Yogi Bear was a cartoon bear that like to steal picnic baskets.