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	<title>Comments on: The Misdirect-Cancel and Trap Pull</title>
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		<title>By: TrapsHunter</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/11/28/the-misdirect-cancel-and-trap-pull/#comment-26694</link>
		<dc:creator>TrapsHunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personal favorite for MD pull is Multi-shot.  MD is 3 stacked, Multi-shot is 3 shots 3 targets.  You pull all the mobs with a decent amount of aggro for the tank and Distracting shot still has enough aggro pull for that trap.  Now you don't have to cancel that ever so precious MD in raids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personal favorite for MD pull is Multi-shot.  MD is 3 stacked, Multi-shot is 3 shots 3 targets.  You pull all the mobs with a decent amount of aggro for the tank and Distracting shot still has enough aggro pull for that trap.  Now you don&#8217;t have to cancel that ever so precious MD in raids.</p>
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		<title>By: Rufio</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/11/28/the-misdirect-cancel-and-trap-pull/#comment-10767</link>
		<dc:creator>Rufio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you could take it one step further&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;/cancelaura Misdirectio[modifier:shift]&lt;br/&gt;/cast Distracting Shot&lt;br/&gt;/stopcasting&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;that should work so when you want to MD and trap, you just hold down shift, then you dont have to change your macro back and forth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you could take it one step further</p>
<p>/cancelaura Misdirectio[modifier:shift]<br />/cast Distracting Shot<br />/stopcasting</p>
<p>that should work so when you want to MD and trap, you just hold down shift, then you dont have to change your macro back and forth.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd like one additional tweak to that macro, BRK.  What would be added to cause my pet to attack the mob the tank is attacking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like one additional tweak to that macro, BRK.  What would be added to cause my pet to attack the mob the tank is attacking?</p>
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		<title>By: Macciatto &#38; Pablosan</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/11/28/the-misdirect-cancel-and-trap-pull/#comment-10740</link>
		<dc:creator>Macciatto &#38; Pablosan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/sigh @Gimmlette&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I wish our guild were open to the idea of hunters pulling mobs for them. Most insist the tank pulls, even when they know hunter's MD tool is designed for this purpose. I watch them time and again come running for aggro a priest bought with a crit heal when in fact I've already sent it their way by use of MD. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Or running Heroic Shattered Halls with a mob of 5. I had a hell of a time trying to peal Square off the tank to trap which ended up as a wipe over and over. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;*pulls hair out in frustration*&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;One of these days, I'll work up the courage to... umm... I don't know what I'll do but I'm dying! Heh.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks, &lt;br/&gt;Macc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/sigh @Gimmlette</p>
<p>I wish our guild were open to the idea of hunters pulling mobs for them. Most insist the tank pulls, even when they know hunter&#8217;s MD tool is designed for this purpose. I watch them time and again come running for aggro a priest bought with a crit heal when in fact I&#8217;ve already sent it their way by use of MD. </p>
<p>Or running Heroic Shattered Halls with a mob of 5. I had a hell of a time trying to peal Square off the tank to trap which ended up as a wipe over and over. </p>
<p>*pulls hair out in frustration*</p>
<p>One of these days, I&#8217;ll work up the courage to&#8230; umm&#8230; I don&#8217;t know what I&#8217;ll do but I&#8217;m dying! Heh.</p>
<p>Thanks, <br />Macc</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. This whole "who does the pulling" thing came up this weekend. &lt;br/&gt;   &lt;br/&gt;My GL has been gone for some time with major computer problems. He was able to connive his way back on after the holiday, but only for the days right after turkey day. First instance back? Blood Furnace. Lots of LOS pulls. Lots of MD pulls. Lots of trapping/sheeping opportunities. We were running a new healer and a new mage through, getting to know them and their talents and helping them practice. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;First big room with one wandering magic user. GL, a warrior, was pulling, over my half-hearted objections. He did want to just come back and kill stuff as he'd been away too long. But I warned him, "Pull the MU when he gets to the far right." "I know. I know." &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You know what happened next. Of course it's not a total wipe because I FD. We laughed heartily and then I said, "You are kill and smash. You're not allowed to play with guns the rest of the instance." &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I'll have to look into the cancel of the MD. I never thought of that. When I'm required to pull and trap, I target my mob and pull it, knowing the rest come along. The tank charges and grabs the skull and anything else while my circle ("Gimmi always gets the 'nipple'." Funny story there.) keeps coming. If I need to MD onto the tank, I do what &lt;b&gt;elanesse&lt;/b&gt; does, Aimed to start the pull, Arcane and Auto. Then Distracting or Steady to announce to the nipple, "Hey, over here bub." It happens quite quickly that the tank seldom takes more than a band-aid of damage before, "Houston? We have a popsicle." &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;After the instance, I told him that he should not be pulling unless he doesn't have a competent hunter with him. "It's not your job. If you are the tank, you tank. If you are dps, you are dps. No pulling." He argued that because he's usually the initial attacker, he should be pulling. He's obstinate but then so am I, so it's going to take me some time to whollop the idea of me doing all his pulls when we're grouped. Other warriors or tanks, they are more amenable to the idea. Saves them some thinking or headaches. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I like to take the close to 70 hunters to BEM and practice on the ogres up there, not the elites, but the others. They come in easily managed clusters. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Gimmlette and UrsaMajor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. This whole &#8220;who does the pulling&#8221; thing came up this weekend. </p>
<p>My GL has been gone for some time with major computer problems. He was able to connive his way back on after the holiday, but only for the days right after turkey day. First instance back? Blood Furnace. Lots of LOS pulls. Lots of MD pulls. Lots of trapping/sheeping opportunities. We were running a new healer and a new mage through, getting to know them and their talents and helping them practice. </p>
<p>First big room with one wandering magic user. GL, a warrior, was pulling, over my half-hearted objections. He did want to just come back and kill stuff as he&#8217;d been away too long. But I warned him, &#8220;Pull the MU when he gets to the far right.&#8221; &#8220;I know. I know.&#8221; </p>
<p>You know what happened next. Of course it&#8217;s not a total wipe because I FD. We laughed heartily and then I said, &#8220;You are kill and smash. You&#8217;re not allowed to play with guns the rest of the instance.&#8221; </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have to look into the cancel of the MD. I never thought of that. When I&#8217;m required to pull and trap, I target my mob and pull it, knowing the rest come along. The tank charges and grabs the skull and anything else while my circle (&#8221;Gimmi always gets the &#8216;nipple&#8217;.&#8221; Funny story there.) keeps coming. If I need to MD onto the tank, I do what <b>elanesse</b> does, Aimed to start the pull, Arcane and Auto. Then Distracting or Steady to announce to the nipple, &#8220;Hey, over here bub.&#8221; It happens quite quickly that the tank seldom takes more than a band-aid of damage before, &#8220;Houston? We have a popsicle.&#8221; </p>
<p>After the instance, I told him that he should not be pulling unless he doesn&#8217;t have a competent hunter with him. &#8220;It&#8217;s not your job. If you are the tank, you tank. If you are dps, you are dps. No pulling.&#8221; He argued that because he&#8217;s usually the initial attacker, he should be pulling. He&#8217;s obstinate but then so am I, so it&#8217;s going to take me some time to whollop the idea of me doing all his pulls when we&#8217;re grouped. Other warriors or tanks, they are more amenable to the idea. Saves them some thinking or headaches. </p>
<p>I like to take the close to 70 hunters to BEM and practice on the ogres up there, not the elites, but the others. They come in easily managed clusters. </p>
<p>Gimmlette and UrsaMajor</p>
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		<title>By: Elanesse</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/11/28/the-misdirect-cancel-and-trap-pull/#comment-10727</link>
		<dc:creator>Elanesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BRK, I also use to pull and trap without cancelling the MD. What I do is arm the trap, MD on the tank, then: Aimed Shot, Steady Shot, Auto Shot, on the tank's target. Then I just target my trap victim and send him a nice Distracting Shot. The first 3 shots on the tank's target fly in about 2.5 sec... and also helps him getting that initial aggro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BRK, I also use to pull and trap without cancelling the MD. What I do is arm the trap, MD on the tank, then: Aimed Shot, Steady Shot, Auto Shot, on the tank&#8217;s target. Then I just target my trap victim and send him a nice Distracting Shot. The first 3 shots on the tank&#8217;s target fly in about 2.5 sec&#8230; and also helps him getting that initial aggro.</p>
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		<title>By: ripcat</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/11/28/the-misdirect-cancel-and-trap-pull/#comment-10725</link>
		<dc:creator>ripcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 04:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BRK, Timely advice indeed. I went to kara tonight and was the only hunter, so I was asked to MD one mob while trapping another game, never done that before but at least I knew what to expect. Needs practice, but I pulled it off on the moroes fight without a hitch, now just have to make it 2nd nature so it can claim it spot in my bag o' tricks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BRK, Timely advice indeed. I went to kara tonight and was the only hunter, so I was asked to MD one mob while trapping another game, never done that before but at least I knew what to expect. Needs practice, but I pulled it off on the moroes fight without a hitch, now just have to make it 2nd nature so it can claim it spot in my bag o&#8217; tricks.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey BRK, lets make this harder.  I was doing a Gruuls PUG the other day and they wanted me on Kiggler and to MT HKM onto the MT, and the other Kigler tank to MD I think it was the healer onto his tank.  How do you do that?  I almost pulled it off with:&lt;br/&gt;- Focus on HKM&lt;br/&gt;- MD to MT&lt;br/&gt;- Distracting (target=focus)&lt;br/&gt;- Remove MD&lt;br/&gt;- Full arcane to Kiggler.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Is there any better way to do that, 'tho?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey BRK, lets make this harder.  I was doing a Gruuls PUG the other day and they wanted me on Kiggler and to MT HKM onto the MT, and the other Kigler tank to MD I think it was the healer onto his tank.  How do you do that?  I almost pulled it off with:<br />- Focus on HKM<br />- MD to MT<br />- Distracting (target=focus)<br />- Remove MD<br />- Full arcane to Kiggler.</p>
<p>Is there any better way to do that, &#8216;tho?</p>
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		<title>By: BRK</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/11/28/the-misdirect-cancel-and-trap-pull/#comment-10722</link>
		<dc:creator>BRK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erwinor, that rocks! Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erwinor, that rocks! Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Gibbiex</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/11/28/the-misdirect-cancel-and-trap-pull/#comment-10720</link>
		<dc:creator>Gibbiex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, another thing, when paly's pull they deal a huge amount of aggro, so i've had a great amount of difficulty trapping properly with em.  I'm not sure what the solution is, maybe BRK or others could help.  I do  Distracting shot and arcane shot highest rank together, and that's still not enough aggro to get the mobs attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, another thing, when paly&#8217;s pull they deal a huge amount of aggro, so i&#8217;ve had a great amount of difficulty trapping properly with em.  I&#8217;m not sure what the solution is, maybe BRK or others could help.  I do  Distracting shot and arcane shot highest rank together, and that&#8217;s still not enough aggro to get the mobs attention.</p>
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