Comments on: Showdown at the BRK Corral http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/12/01/showdown-at-the-brk-corral/ World of Warcraft Hunter Blog Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:42:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: tehkrons http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/12/01/showdown-at-the-brk-corral/#comment-10820 tehkrons Sun, 02 Dec 2007 17:44:00 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=790#comment-10820 There's nothing really wrong with comparing apples and oranges but I like apple juice better than orange juice and I like oranges better than apples. How will I ever determine a winner? It's all about intended consumption. There’s nothing really wrong with comparing apples and oranges but I like apple juice better than orange juice and I like oranges better than apples. How will I ever determine a winner? It’s all about intended consumption.

]]> By: Felandra http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/12/01/showdown-at-the-brk-corral/#comment-10815 Felandra Sun, 02 Dec 2007 14:00:00 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=790#comment-10815 If you only care about Boss damage, then the cross will never be something you will like. It quite simply isn't made for that, it is meant to help you kill enemies in ever larger numbers.<br/><br/>I would say it is one of the most awesome trinkets along with Mark of Conquest for trash and for grinding. Those two will really help you keep the work up. But on the boss they are will come up very short. There it is time to switch to more powerful 'use' trinkets.<br/><br/>Since you only cared about the boss damage, it was a fairly bad comparison as one of the trinkets were not made for that. It is like comparing two onehanders to a big twohander for a Fury warrior/Enhancement Shaman... The twohander is not going to compare favourably, and as such comparing two onehanders with another two onehanders woul be much better. If you only care about Boss damage, then the cross will never be something you will like. It quite simply isn’t made for that, it is meant to help you kill enemies in ever larger numbers.

I would say it is one of the most awesome trinkets along with Mark of Conquest for trash and for grinding. Those two will really help you keep the work up. But on the boss they are will come up very short. There it is time to switch to more powerful ‘use’ trinkets.

Since you only cared about the boss damage, it was a fairly bad comparison as one of the trinkets were not made for that. It is like comparing two onehanders to a big twohander for a Fury warrior/Enhancement Shaman… The twohander is not going to compare favourably, and as such comparing two onehanders with another two onehanders woul be much better.

]]> By: Rhust http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/12/01/showdown-at-the-brk-corral/#comment-10813 Rhust Sun, 02 Dec 2007 05:24:00 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=790#comment-10813 actually, that's why I un-equip the cross for boss fights and equip the abacus, you get AP and another haste use... abacus and hourglass for bosses, cross and hourglass the rest of the time. actually, that’s why I un-equip the cross for boss fights and equip the abacus, you get AP and another haste use… abacus and hourglass for bosses, cross and hourglass the rest of the time.

]]> By: BRK http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/12/01/showdown-at-the-brk-corral/#comment-10812 BRK Sun, 02 Dec 2007 04:44:00 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=790#comment-10812 What's wrong with comparing apples and oranges? That's the whole idea behind a WWS test; being able to test items that have different capabilites.<br/><br/>As for the AP buff the Silver Cross gives, we really don't care about it. Boss-damage is our game. What’s wrong with comparing apples and oranges? That’s the whole idea behind a WWS test; being able to test items that have different capabilites.

As for the AP buff the Silver Cross gives, we really don’t care about it. Boss-damage is our game.

]]> By: Rotseh http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/12/01/showdown-at-the-brk-corral/#comment-10810 Rotseh Sun, 02 Dec 2007 04:03:00 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=790#comment-10810 Haste from the Crystalforged? What haste?<br/><br/>I also think this is comparing apples with oranges. The Crystalforged should rather be compared with Bloodlust Brooch and the Skyguard Cross with the Hourglass (of which both I believe the latter is better). Haste from the Crystalforged? What haste?

I also think this is comparing apples with oranges. The Crystalforged should rather be compared with Bloodlust Brooch and the Skyguard Cross with the Hourglass (of which both I believe the latter is better).

]]> By: tehkrons http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/12/01/showdown-at-the-brk-corral/#comment-10808 tehkrons Sun, 02 Dec 2007 01:37:00 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=790#comment-10808 This is sort of like comparing apples and oranges. The Silver Cross would by far outperform the Crystalforged trinket if it was used in its intended circumstances. If you were just shooting Dr. Boom, then its proc was never active. <br/><br/>Try doing a couple of BM runs sometime where you are on adds. The first one use the cross and the second one use the CT, tell me which one is easier. <br/><br/>I was going to say that CT would be ok if you don't have access to anything else, then I realized that all hunters do have access to better things, and they don't require instance grinds or dailies. <br/><br/>1.) Bladefist's breadth - I still have this in my bank. Has a longer cooldown, but longer duration and the extra crit more than makes up for it. What does it take to get it, a short questline and a ramparts run? <br/><br/>2.) Ogre Mauler's Badge or Uniting Charm - Again longer cooldown but increased duration and a much more useful on equip ability. Reward for world PVP in Nagrand.<br/><br/><br/>3.) Mark of Conquest - May not do as much damage per shot, but you're going to be doing damage for longer. Reward for world PVP badges in Zangarmarsh. This is sort of like comparing apples and oranges. The Silver Cross would by far outperform the Crystalforged trinket if it was used in its intended circumstances. If you were just shooting Dr. Boom, then its proc was never active.

Try doing a couple of BM runs sometime where you are on adds. The first one use the cross and the second one use the CT, tell me which one is easier.

I was going to say that CT would be ok if you don’t have access to anything else, then I realized that all hunters do have access to better things, and they don’t require instance grinds or dailies.

1.) Bladefist’s breadth - I still have this in my bank. Has a longer cooldown, but longer duration and the extra crit more than makes up for it. What does it take to get it, a short questline and a ramparts run?

2.) Ogre Mauler’s Badge or Uniting Charm - Again longer cooldown but increased duration and a much more useful on equip ability. Reward for world PVP in Nagrand.

3.) Mark of Conquest - May not do as much damage per shot, but you’re going to be doing damage for longer. Reward for world PVP badges in Zangarmarsh.

]]> By: Felandra http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/12/01/showdown-at-the-brk-corral/#comment-10807 Felandra Sun, 02 Dec 2007 01:20:00 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=790#comment-10807 "7. The extra damage-per-shot from the Crystalforged is advertised at +7, but our testing shows it only as +3, (447 with the Silver Cross and 450 with the Crystalforged)."<br/><br/>Armour mitigation. Though itseems to be on the high side compare to the actual damage in relation to the tooltip. “7. The extra damage-per-shot from the Crystalforged is advertised at +7, but our testing shows it only as +3, (447 with the Silver Cross and 450 with the Crystalforged).”

Armour mitigation. Though itseems to be on the high side compare to the actual damage in relation to the tooltip.

]]> By: Lance http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/12/01/showdown-at-the-brk-corral/#comment-10805 Lance Sun, 02 Dec 2007 01:12:00 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=790#comment-10805 I was just wondering why sometimes your links to Wowhead don't work. it says loading and then it says no response from server. I was just wondering why sometimes your links to Wowhead don’t work. it says loading and then it says no response from server.

]]> By: Rhust http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/12/01/showdown-at-the-brk-corral/#comment-10804 Rhust Sun, 02 Dec 2007 00:19:00 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=790#comment-10804 heh, I did this test too not long ago, with damage meters instead of WWS... almost same thing too, the extra crit was nice, but not as big of a difference as I thought... <br/><br/>I'm curious on scopes on my new S2 xbow... 28 crit or 12 damage? <br/><br/>I'm sitting pretty at 28.5% (unbuffed), crit with the +28 crit scope, but wonder if 12 damage would be better? I get close to 37% crit buffed in kara<br/><br/>btw, I hate "use for X AP" trinkets, since I have the orc racial that has more of a boost than any I can find... so I use the silver cross with the hourglass... <br/><br/>the hourglass procs based on crits so more crits also pop that too... <br/><br/>during the last prince fight we did a wws for, it proc'd 2 times in 4 minutes... and that was with about 3% less crit, since the scope and xbow are new... <br/><br/>so, my question is this... would the +12 damage scope be better than the 28 crit? heh, I did this test too not long ago, with damage meters instead of WWS… almost same thing too, the extra crit was nice, but not as big of a difference as I thought…

I’m curious on scopes on my new S2 xbow… 28 crit or 12 damage?

I’m sitting pretty at 28.5% (unbuffed), crit with the +28 crit scope, but wonder if 12 damage would be better? I get close to 37% crit buffed in kara

btw, I hate “use for X AP” trinkets, since I have the orc racial that has more of a boost than any I can find… so I use the silver cross with the hourglass…

the hourglass procs based on crits so more crits also pop that too…

during the last prince fight we did a wws for, it proc’d 2 times in 4 minutes… and that was with about 3% less crit, since the scope and xbow are new…

so, my question is this… would the +12 damage scope be better than the 28 crit?

]]> By: Camaxtli http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/12/01/showdown-at-the-brk-corral/#comment-10801 Camaxtli Sat, 01 Dec 2007 23:33:00 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=790#comment-10801 It's time you do a few Black Morass runs and get yourself the Hourglass of the Unraveller. It gives you almost the same amount of +crit & a chance on an attack buff whenever you crit... For that reason I prefer it over the Skyguard Silver Cross.<br/><br/>But perhaps you'll tell me now why this isn't a valid statement :-) It’s time you do a few Black Morass runs and get yourself the Hourglass of the Unraveller. It gives you almost the same amount of +crit & a chance on an attack buff whenever you crit… For that reason I prefer it over the Skyguard Silver Cross.

But perhaps you’ll tell me now why this isn’t a valid statement :-)

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