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		<title>By: Hacking &#8230; - Le Repaire de Sellia</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/12/23/f-ck/comment-page-1/#comment-39825</link>
		<dc:creator>Hacking &#8230; - Le Repaire de Sellia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 08:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] talked about this here and here.Breana here, here and here.Kestrel here.Skindancer here and here.Kinless [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ttrust</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/12/23/f-ck/comment-page-1/#comment-21211</link>
		<dc:creator>Ttrust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently had my account hacked, tried to log in, couldnt. Went and did a password recovery. Found myself in dire maul. I am the gm of a 25 man raiding guild trying to get into ssc. We were in the proccess of making two nature resist sets and two frost resists sets. Each set takes 72 primals each from two schools. Plus, and this is what killed me, i lost 250 badges. They spent them on nether vortex and sold them. 

I got my toon back around 4 hours after the guild bank was robbed. of course the whole guild is helping me find the names of people selling the loot on the AH. I estimate around 30k worth of items. Got in narrowed down to three names. Added them to my friends list and now three days later i am still seeing these lvl 1 toons log in and out in sequence to collect money. 

This leads me to my question. If a person can get banned for rude behavior, harassment and items like that. Why are these lvl 1 toons able to come and go even when the names were given to a gm and it was obvios by the numbers and items it was stuff from our guild bank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently had my account hacked, tried to log in, couldnt. Went and did a password recovery. Found myself in dire maul. I am the gm of a 25 man raiding guild trying to get into ssc. We were in the proccess of making two nature resist sets and two frost resists sets. Each set takes 72 primals each from two schools. Plus, and this is what killed me, i lost 250 badges. They spent them on nether vortex and sold them. </p>
<p>I got my toon back around 4 hours after the guild bank was robbed. of course the whole guild is helping me find the names of people selling the loot on the AH. I estimate around 30k worth of items. Got in narrowed down to three names. Added them to my friends list and now three days later i am still seeing these lvl 1 toons log in and out in sequence to collect money. </p>
<p>This leads me to my question. If a person can get banned for rude behavior, harassment and items like that. Why are these lvl 1 toons able to come and go even when the names were given to a gm and it was obvios by the numbers and items it was stuff from our guild bank.</p>
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		<title>By: Gun Lovin&#8217; Dwarf Chick &#187; Alright Listen Up&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/12/23/f-ck/comment-page-1/#comment-12166</link>
		<dc:creator>Gun Lovin&#8217; Dwarf Chick &#187; Alright Listen Up&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 22:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] accounts are being hacked.  Does it matter if they could have prevented it, if they should have been more vigilant, whether [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jmfries</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/12/23/f-ck/comment-page-1/#comment-11994</link>
		<dc:creator>jmfries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 20:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Ahoni, 

After reading my last post, I thought it may sound a little harsh. That was not my intent. I mean no disrespect. Merry Christmas :)

Alanor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ahoni, </p>
<p>After reading my last post, I thought it may sound a little harsh. That was not my intent. I mean no disrespect. Merry Christmas <img src='http://www.bigredkitty.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Alanor</p>
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		<title>By: jmfries</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/12/23/f-ck/comment-page-1/#comment-11993</link>
		<dc:creator>jmfries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 20:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Ahoni

Are you kidding? I hope so. We gave access to a person in our guild who has been a member (and a mid-level officer) for a while, not some new guy off the street. We have no access for the lowest rank in our guild, and we don&#039;t hand out promotions like they are Santa Bucks or anything. And equating my personal bank and a &quot;guild&quot; bank is rather tenuous don&#039;t you think. The guild bank is for the GUILD, not personal, private use. We also have instituted a cap on items and money withdrawals per day. But in fairness, they big picture is the moron hacks who do stuff like BRK&#039;s guild (and so many others) are going through. It sucks, and I hope Blizzard takes care of ya. 

Alanor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ahoni</p>
<p>Are you kidding? I hope so. We gave access to a person in our guild who has been a member (and a mid-level officer) for a while, not some new guy off the street. We have no access for the lowest rank in our guild, and we don&#8217;t hand out promotions like they are Santa Bucks or anything. And equating my personal bank and a &#8220;guild&#8221; bank is rather tenuous don&#8217;t you think. The guild bank is for the GUILD, not personal, private use. We also have instituted a cap on items and money withdrawals per day. But in fairness, they big picture is the moron hacks who do stuff like BRK&#8217;s guild (and so many others) are going through. It sucks, and I hope Blizzard takes care of ya. </p>
<p>Alanor</p>
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		<title>By: Blizzard: The Grinch? &#124; Kestrel&#8217;s Aerie</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/12/23/f-ck/comment-page-1/#comment-11991</link>
		<dc:creator>Blizzard: The Grinch? &#124; Kestrel&#8217;s Aerie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 19:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it&#8217;s happened again, this time to an officer in Aetherial Circle (BRK&#8217;s guild on Drenden). The account holder was able to recover the account, briefly, but [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Green</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/12/23/f-ck/comment-page-1/#comment-11981</link>
		<dc:creator>Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 18:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Hyouzan

I think that WoW should implement a two-factor authentication.  When you buy the game or updates.  It somes with a keyfob that has a digital password that changes every minute or so.  (Look up secure ID) or whatever...    Thus the hacker would have to get your ID, PW, and key fob for access.  Very hard unless they get that physical piece.

We all spend $ and time which is worth alot..  and to get hacked is a violation and I often wonder if it has a digital right.  It&#039;s identity theft.... after all and there could be some legal ramifications.</description>
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<p>I think that WoW should implement a two-factor authentication.  When you buy the game or updates.  It somes with a keyfob that has a digital password that changes every minute or so.  (Look up secure ID) or whatever&#8230;    Thus the hacker would have to get your ID, PW, and key fob for access.  Very hard unless they get that physical piece.</p>
<p>We all spend $ and time which is worth alot..  and to get hacked is a violation and I often wonder if it has a digital right.  It&#8217;s identity theft&#8230;. after all and there could be some legal ramifications.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahoni</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/12/23/f-ck/comment-page-1/#comment-11980</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 18:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jmfries 

Thats your guilds fault, and Blizzard should do nothing.  You had stuff stolen by someone you gave access to your guild bank.  If I give someone my ATM card and pin number, I can&#039;t call the police and say they stole from me.  I gave them access.  Our guild, only officers can withdraw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jmfries </p>
<p>Thats your guilds fault, and Blizzard should do nothing.  You had stuff stolen by someone you gave access to your guild bank.  If I give someone my ATM card and pin number, I can&#8217;t call the police and say they stole from me.  I gave them access.  Our guild, only officers can withdraw.</p>
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		<title>By: Hyouzan</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/12/23/f-ck/comment-page-1/#comment-11961</link>
		<dc:creator>Hyouzan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 15:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Green

My roomie account got hacked earlier this year. The hacker gave it to him hard. They raped all of his toons, sent the money somewhere and then deleted every toon. Then the jack@$$ went into the account managemetn removed the payment informaiton, cancelled the account and then changed the password. When my roomie called Blizz they said that a request was made to delete the account. 

FYI, the GM we spoke to said once a toon is deleted the information about in-game mail and trades is deleted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Green</p>
<p>My roomie account got hacked earlier this year. The hacker gave it to him hard. They raped all of his toons, sent the money somewhere and then deleted every toon. Then the jack@$$ went into the account managemetn removed the payment informaiton, cancelled the account and then changed the password. When my roomie called Blizz they said that a request was made to delete the account. </p>
<p>FYI, the GM we spoke to said once a toon is deleted the information about in-game mail and trades is deleted.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaris</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2007/12/23/f-ck/comment-page-1/#comment-11957</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 15:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to hear bout your guild&#039;s misfortune. :( 
I hope Blizzard is able to help you guys out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to hear bout your guild&#8217;s misfortune. <img src='http://www.bigredkitty.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I hope Blizzard is able to help you guys out.</p>
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