Hunter Horror in Redridge
You know how it works, right? Click the pic to view the movie in a new window, right-click and select Save Link As to save the movie to your local computer.
/sigh
Edit: Just in case you forgot, here’s us showing you how to go through your first nine levels without doing it the, “Let him slap me about the face” way.
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Hey BRK,
Loving the movies but a quick request. Is there any chance you could provide a Windows media player version?
I can’t view QuickTime movies at work. *sigh
Cheers
Kolan & Jag
Only you can prevent melee hunters *points at you*
Nice vid BRK
I saw another level 70 one in Outlands today *sigh* Sometimes I feel our work will never be done. BUT WE WILL NOT GIVE UP WITHOUT A FIGHT. *insert war movie inspirational speech here*
By the way, I just realized that your voice reminds me of Nathan Lane…
oh yea…he does sound like Nathan Lane…
anyhow…I think this whole melee hunter thing starts because for the first 10 levels you have almost no choice. Without a pet, there is basically nothing to keep the mobs from running to you and forcing you into melee combat. Then, after getting used to that for 10 levels these people are given a pet, and the NPC definitely does not tell you “From here on out, you need to play COMPLETELY DIFFERENTLY than you ever have before! Stop stabbing those boars, let your pet bite them first!”
did you direct this young hunter to Bigredkitty.net?
Mmmmmmm, raspberry latte.
@Kolan
He’s on a mac don’t forget. Anyway, shouldn’t you be working at work?
youtubeplzokthxbi
I lol’d in real life
>>Without a pet, there is basically nothing to keep the mobs from running to you and forcing you into melee combat.
Sure there is. It’s called ‘run the other way’. Sure, you’re not fast enough to be able to run away from all damage, but let me tell you: after watching the BRK ‘Lowbie Training’, I gave it a try. And though it took me a few times to get the hang of running *and* shooting (I’ve only got so many hands), I was able to take on most enemies with only a hit or two taken because I was… gasp… running away and shooting at them while I did it.
And this is coming from an honest-to-god, still-on-free-sample, just-joined-yesterday lowbie. Imagine what someone with a few bankrolled/donated greens under his belt could do.
Personally, I’m thinking it comes from seeing other Hunters doing the same thing, and thinking ‘That’s got to be the right way! I mean, it’s working for *them*.’ When those hunters before them thought ‘This has to be the right way…’ and so on into the night. Just because it looks like the right way doesn’t mean it *is* the right way.
… well, actually it comes from laziness, because it takes less to stand there and tank it than it does to use tactics.
/sigh… i see the hubby doing this on his 70 hunter. no matter what i say he refuses to play it ‘properly’ cause he’s playing how he wants to - in saying that he does play properly in instances but jeez… repair bill much? no wonder he’s always askin to borrow gold!
Freaking Hilarious!!! Huntard FTL…HA! Keep em coming BRK!!
“no wonder he’s always askin to borrow gold!”
Tell him you’re cutting him off until he plays his Hunter properly! Lol.
@ Kurasu
You’re right, you can run away and shoot. Laziness definitely comes into play, and you have no idea how many hunters I’ve run across that didn’t know you could move and shoot at the same time!
Enough with the QT. Youtube it for our sanity’s sake.
I think what is better than BRK’s Movies is his commentary itself. OMG it is so funny.
But I can’t access Youtube or Google Video from work. =(
I can’t see it at work, but god I hope that’s not me.
Shooting on the fun has always been fun for me. Now if they can just work on the pet pathing, I’d actually be pretty happy. I’ve seen my cat take the strangest routes to get to a marked mob sometimes.. Oh well, not everything can be perfect…
My tauren hunter and a Nelf hunter were killing ogres in a cave in Stranglethorn, and the Nelf was doing this — at level 40something.
I’ve also seen hunters not using Hunter’s Mark. I even ran into a petless hunter. I asked him where his pet was. He told me his pet was always really unhappy and kept leaving. I asked him why he didn’t feed it. Because he had no food. I ended up giving him a stack of food and wishing him luck. I’m not the greatest hunter in the world (much much better after discovering BRK thank you), but I think it’s that they just don’t know.
It could be that they haven’t figured out how to send their pet to attack. It could me a bit of experimenting to figure that out. Afterall, the pet attacks automatically once the mob hits the hunter if the pet is on defensive. So may they just don’t know there is more to it than that.
Grumble grumble, raspberry latte.
For all you hard working folks who are can’t access youtube & co. give
http://www.videolan.org/
a try it is a realy nice software and so you will be abel to watch teh files.
I’m a Warlock. I’ve been a Warlock since release. Additionally, I’ve leveled a Warrior and Paladin to 70… and I’m working on a Mage.
But damn me if these videos are making me want to give a Hunter a shot.
Hehehe… “debacle”
That’d actually be a good pet name, you could call it Debbie for short…
In all seriousness though, BRK, you should get Pike to draw you a raspberry latte, host it, and use it as a reward for all the non-huntards you come across. You could call it:
The BRK Latte of Brainpower
- Rekurve and Kuro
K, i haven’t watched the movies as i’m at work, but i’m always worried that one of these melee hunter movies or spam is going to end up showing me. Why? Well, i’ve been Lv 70 for 6 months, a hunter through and through, but for some reason decided that if i was going to be truly “complete”, i needed to level all my melee weapon skills from 0-350. So goal set and already majoring in Axes, i went from 1-350 in Polearms, One Handed Swords, Daggers, 2 H swords you name it. One, maybe two nights a week farming clefthoof in Nagrand with pet tanking and me Melee. Boy i must have looked a sight doing it for 90-120 min stretches at a time. I gave up at 349 for the one handed stuff, but levelled the rest and ended up with more stacks of Clefthoof than you can shake a stick at. So hey, check what the Melee hunter is up to before you spam
As I cringe every time I see this Horror going on … BRK you are setting them right? You filmed them and as payment you sent them to bigredkitty.com? Right? *worries that they are still out there lurking behind a tree disguised as hunters ready to jump out to ax you to death.*
Not Nathan Lane. Ray Romano.
Anonymous on 10 Jan 2008 at 11:33 am, exactly my thoughts when I watched 1st hunter guide movie
http://www.wowitemcreator.com/view/151792/Raspberry_Latte.html
I’m gonna get busted on this working my cat up from 60 to 70. Misdirects been a big help, but I still end up tanking those Clefthooves from time to time. Thanks goodness for the bump to pet leveling speed.
One of my guildmates watched the lowbie movies (after I pointed it out in the guild website), rolled a new dwarf hunter and tracked damage for the first five levels.
Result:
Damage Dealt: 3,556.
Damage Taken: 262.
Thank You So Much,
Corwyn
For all of Guildissimo
@ Chorius
You are full of win.
- Rekurve & Kuro
Here’s a challenge … get to level 70 with a defense rating of less than say 200
Can it be done?
Thank you for the educational vids, keem ‘m coming!!! Blizz should play snippets like these instead of the Racial movie intro for each new toon.
Trying to put myself back in the mindset I was in when I first started WoW and chose a Hunter…
1) As a newbie to the game, I was not committed enough to plunk down the RL money for any sort of accessory gaming hardware like a Nostromo. Although its not really earthshattering to the outcome of the videos, it would be nice if you are using a normal keyboard for kiting and other maneuvers that require a bit extra finger twisting on standard kit. Newbies learn these skills on default hardware, so part of the authentic feel is lost knowing the videos are being filmed by super skilled hands on super customized hardware.
2) Along the same lines, your UI is heavily customized via Addons. When a new player joins WoW and is playing their first toon as a Hunter, even if they are confident and savvy enough to use Addons, the sheer volume and variety is probably too overwhelming to expect a first time level 10 to have anything close to the UI shown.
These two points don’t alter the fantastic lessons in any dramatic way, but some food for thought.
And add 1 more vote for Ray Romano
Thank you for the comments Amava, let’s see what we can clear up.
1) We don’t have the Nostromo yet, it was backordered. Everything we do in the videos is with a keyboard and mouse. We haven’t even begun showing people how to run with the mouse as opposed to the keyboard. All our kiting and jumping has been done using the WASD method.
2) Our first few movies had nothing but the default UI. Indeed, our first movie we explicitly explained that it was the exact same thing everybody sees at level one. We added Omen for an Omen tutorial, but have left it out of all our other movies except where it is being explained.
As for the UI on our level 20 movies, we had to install Bartender3 or activate the default extra actions bars due to the number of spells we have accumulated. Had we done the latter, that would’ve messed up our BRK-UI and that we cannot have.
We will be introducing many addons in vidoes in the very near future! We’ve actually got one all ready for narratation, but it’s in the queue behind our Gruul’s Lair video. And soon we’ll have a Lurker Below video as our guild officially has him on Farm. AND OMG!! we still have the Jumpshot video to film…
I think the nearly incoherent mutterings of rage at the end of the video are the best part.
I thought you were just being silly in the lowbie movie about what not to do. Go figure - people really do fight like that, it seems.
Hahaha, OMG, it is soo sad. I am OK, with a little melee, I like to keep my current weapon skilled up, but at least send the pet to attack first!!
@Bela (EXTREMELY BELATEDLY)
>>you have no idea how many hunters I’ve run across that didn’t know you could move and shoot at the same time!
Partially because they’re always using autofire, and with autofire going, you stop shooting while you’re running. You have to pause a moment to let it ‘reengage’. But you make a valid point. That might well be another reason people don’t do it.
Time to make BRK a mandatory link from the Hunters screen in Bliz! Anyone a hacker?
P.S. I’M JUST KIDDING ABOUT THE HACKER THING DON’T BAN ME BLIZZARD!
In the spirit of Chorius:
http://www.wowitemcreator.com/view/151855/Little_Gun.html
Lurker piping in that the videos are really appreciated, even those showing how not to do it. Thanks for taking the time and effort, lord knows its not easy making all those videos.
Durgan
@kurasu
With the changes in 2.3.2 (no 0.5 second delay in autoshot) we might end up doing a lot of “stutter” shooting. A visual timer would be of even greater benefit now. Or, until it gets nerfed.
Actually, I think you give this guy too much credit. It doesn’t seem “Oh yeah, I’ve got a pet, I’ll attack with him now” ever enters into it. In both cases, the pet attacked as the mob hit him. I suspect his pet is still on defencive, as it defaults to, and he may well have no idea how to actually attack with the pet. It’s not as if the quests that you go through to get your pet actually teach anything. It may be that everything he knows about playing a hunter he learnt from the hunter trainer in game.
As the guildmate Corwyn referred to above, I’ve continued the new dwarf hunter a bit, and last night dinged level 10. At that point, I again checked Recount, and the totals for getting that far, from a starting level 1 were:
Damage Dealt: 28,193
Damage Taken: 4,221
All of that was solo work (no players acting as pseudo-pets). The character had a defence skill rating of 39. I was a bit disappointed that the damage taken was so high, as I kited almost everything on the way up. It had to be much lower than on my previous hunters. There were at least two quests in separate caves, though, that made kiting more difficult. Also, there were a couple times without handy roads for safe kiting where I kited one mob into another that took umbrage at that. And there were a fair number of boars, which, thanks to charge, hit hard when they did connect.
But then, unlike your video, I didn’t have concussive shot (level 8 ) most of the way. Serpent sting (level 4), arcane shot (level 6) and concussive shot can all be fired on the run, and make kiting easier. Until those, one must pause for auto-shot to cock the gun (or draw the bow) and fire, before setting off again.
Still, it was thanks to your first lowbie hunter video that I finally figured out the utility of strafe movement despite having gotten a hunter to 70 previously. Since I mostly move with the mouse, I rebound the two thumb buttons on my mouse to strafe left and right, so I can easily use that, while still using only the mouse for movement.
Yep, I reckon the pet is just on default Defensive mode, and it’s just responding automatically when the hunter gets hit. I don’t think these hunters have at any point pressed any of those pet-bar buttons. I think I’m going to cry.
Feel sorry for the poor guy and even worse for him if he ever sees himself on here!
Chuwlawn (LeRoi, Wiggle and Eric)
I partied with a hunter like this for a while (level 20 or so) while i was on my druid alt. After a few fights I told him I had this great hunter macro I use and typed it out for him.
/cast Hunter’s Mark
/petattack
He said thanks, and after a while said “yeah its working great”, but i never saw hunter’s mark and never saw the pet attack except to defend. I tried a few times more to explain to him later but no go.
For me level 10 of my first hunter char (also my first wow char) was a revelation “THIS is how a hunter works!!!!” because for the first 9 levels I had been trying to figure out how to keep the mob at range which is obviously what a hunter needs to do.
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hey i have a 60 hunter soon to be 70, wen i hit 70 should i do all MM?
right now i have BM untill i have beastialwrath then i went the rest to MM for aimed shot.
wen i hit 70 its gona be all pvp what speck should i do?