BRK PvP Kiting Movie
So we’ve done a PvP movie! Well, not the kind of PvP movie you might think. We’re not going to teach you how to beat Class/Spec X, but we want to show you how Strafe and Jump Shot Kiting can be used to stay out of melee range and fight from distance. MQoS Ranged! DPS Like we were designed to do.
But in order to show you this Hunter Study, we need a Test Subject. Kelektra, a credit to Canadians everywhere and our really good friend, quickly and happily volunteered. /cheer Kel!
This movie is not about how a hunter should fight a druid. This movie is not about how a druid should fight a hunter. This movie is about how a hunter can utilize multiple techniques to stay out of range of melee DPS. With regards to Kel, be nice. She didn’t volunteer to be critiqued, understand? Thank you, very much. 
Now if you’ve got Hunter Critiques and Ideas, by all means, comment away!
Download the full-sized (14MB) here.
For the Pie on 24 Feb 2008 at 12:56 am #
Nice movie BRK although i am pretty sure you would want to download the full version for good viewing, T Forest is kinda dark.
Dune on 24 Feb 2008 at 1:34 am #
Thanks for posting this. Good to know that I’m more or less doing things right haha…
-Dune
Molinu on 24 Feb 2008 at 1:38 am #
Very nicely done, and props to Kel to volunteering to help teach this!
Grimbert on 24 Feb 2008 at 1:58 am #
I would also say it’s a nice video because of the techniques shown, but :
The Youtube version is too damn dark - Terokkar ftl, try Nagrands rolling green tableau next time for more clarity.
Do you know that there’s a clicking sound at the start and end of every sound bite? I presume you overdub the video afterwards, so I don’t know if it’s the mouseclick being picked up by the mic, or something?
Other than that - good technique and good inspiration for those of us who don’t do a lot of pvp
Kohelani on 24 Feb 2008 at 4:24 am #
BRK, you are SO the man! Thanks for all you’ve done in the past, thanks for your arena coverage of your teams - I kind of live vicariously through your exploits lol. I’ll probably never get to the point of being on an arena team, but just reading about the choices you make and why you make them in the different situations help the rest of us immensely. And this latest movie of yours is a perfect example as it’ll definitely help in BGs.
I made level 70 and thought I was the shiznit until I found out how many other things there are to accomplish once you reach 70 and how little I actually knew about being a hunter. I’ve been drooling over the epic gear you can get with enough honor and have just been grinding away at BGs to get it. With this new info on how to deal with meleers (is that a word?) I feel refreshed and am looking forward to the next BG I find myself in.
Thanks again!
Kohelani & Ikaika
Felandra on 24 Feb 2008 at 8:44 am #
That looked so much better than why I try to do this… And in duels I always end up going out of bounds… MEH! Too used to just run around like I have all of Kalimdor to roam over.
BRK on 24 Feb 2008 at 9:49 am #
We’ll run the movie through a filter and see if we can make it brighter. No promises, but we’ll try.
The clicking you hear is us starting and stopping the audio commentary. We could trim the first 1/10th of a second from the start and stop of each audio clip, but that’s a ton of time we just don’t have.
megan on 24 Feb 2008 at 12:53 pm #
Why a Feral Druid as an example? Warrior or Rogue would be better because they have the ability to snare and stay on top of you. This would also make for better tactics as you then would have to show good use of your PVP trinket to maintain your kiting.
BTW, starting a duel against a stealth class while they are grouped means you can see them from the getgo via minimap.. at least give the poor Druid the option of her opening Pounce stun!
BRK on 24 Feb 2008 at 1:31 pm #
We used a Feral Druid because that’s who volunteered. We are hoping to get a DPS warrior and a rogue to help us make more movies!
We didn’t even equip our PvP trinket, just like we didn’t Bestial Wrath. We didn’t want to make this a 30 second movie on how to burn a druid into the ground, we want to emphasize kiting techniques.
Although we did have an advantage with being grouped and her not being allowed to completely stealth. We will correct that in the next movie, absolutely.
Dune on 24 Feb 2008 at 3:01 pm #
Good luck with getting a rogue or warrior to help out next time. Definitely looking forward to that. Since I don’t have a trinket yet, Warriors annoy me to no end…Hamstring, run, PIGGY charges, trap, “please god don’t resist, please god don’t resist” lol ;[
Feist on 24 Feb 2008 at 3:16 pm #
One trick for warriors is to stack whatever dots you have on them, and stay between 5 and 9 yards - what used to be the deadzone - that IS a deadzone for warriors, as they can’t use intercept to get back to melee range on you.
Thaumaturgos on 24 Feb 2008 at 9:02 pm #
BRK, thanks for your comments on PvP play. I tried your recent suggestion of running at a Warrior the other day, using Wingclip as I went by. Boy! Was he surprised. Having been concussion shotted, I think he thought I was now dead meat. He stopped dead as I charged at him, and then was hamstrung once I hit and ran past! That bought me some time. I dropped a snake trap, which bought me enough to hit him again with concussion. Rinse and repeat. I killed him with tons of HP to spare, and was just starting on the next lumbering ton of plate armor when a Mage DoT’d me
But it was a sweet moment. Thanks again, from Neni and MarfaStewart.
Stuntyone on 24 Feb 2008 at 11:15 pm #
Why have you done this too me? Giving all hunters the knowledge of how to send me into a raging fit of incoherent screaming at my pc monitor. Bad BRK, BAD. Go sit in the naughty corner and think about what you’ve done!
Luketheduke on 25 Feb 2008 at 4:58 am #
It is ok, but the fact is no druid in any BG, even a crappy druid, is just going to sit in Bearform and let you kite him without shifting forms, healing, etc. Other than that, a pretty good flick.
Scare beast is a good way to get the bear off your back and buy you time to get the farquad out of dodge. Just make sure when you scare him that he doesn’t get to his “intercept” range.
Also, a feign death in the middle of a procced snake trap works well because most people (myself included) use the tab bar to target enemies in BG’s and this will buy you some time to get distance without taking damage.
Also, make sure you ALWAYS get a serpent sting on all rogues (druids can’t restealth so not so important) right away so they have to clos to vanish, and waste a valuable cooldown.
Lastly, I couldn’t listen with sound because I am at work so you may have mentioned it, but hunters should ALWAYS have detect invisibility activated in any pvp situation.
Cheers,
Luke
Kilvanae on 25 Feb 2008 at 7:34 am #
I’m a big fan on Raptor Clipping instead of just Wing Clip. A simple macro with /cast Raptor Strike and then /cast Wing Clip and you get to Wing Clip them for a little extra damage. Don’t see too many other hunters doing it but I do think Ive seen in mentioned in the comments here at one point.
Oelph on 25 Feb 2008 at 7:37 am #
How do you deal with rogues if you either don’t have BW or its on cooldown? I have a 50/50 success rate, but often find that their stuns of snares stop me from making any usable distance between myself and them. With a rogue I send pet, sting, concuss and snake trap - not necessarily in that order
I’ve always found with hunters that the moment we get snared its very difficult to get back on top of the fight.
Grazeland & NinjaNed on 25 Feb 2008 at 9:46 am #
Nice job BRK. I am teh suck vs. Feral Druids and pallys, I just don’t do enough damage to bring them down faster than they can bring me down. Though, it seems to me that you weren’t using all the tricks in your book and she wasn’t using all the tricks in hers… so I assume that it might have been a harder fight if all bets were off. Regardless, it was still really well done. I know you’re a PVE lifer, but if you could put up more PVP vids like this you’d be my hero forever.
PLEASE!!!!?
Vixenytli & Chuck on 25 Feb 2008 at 11:40 am #
This was a huge help. essentially vix knew what to do, but she’s a visual person and this helped her really make it click. We did much better in Arena, Woot! Warriors are no problems now!
but Her Aff-lock wasn’t much use last night, just not on his game. It takes two to tango so our rating is still super low. (Check out Murloc Mafia if you want to laugh at us.) But considering how many times she’s bungled up the whole thing he could mess up for like 20 more games before they’re even.
Really useful though. much appreciated.
cgeorgemo on 25 Feb 2008 at 1:40 pm #
While I was hunting in Nagrand last night doing the second step in the Talbuk Mastery line I had to go AFK for a sec cause my daughter cried out in her sleep.
After making sure she was okay and settled back down. I got a drink and headed back to the game.
Of course in the time I was gone I got AFK killed by a druid.
Checked my combat log and got the name for the revenge lost and started running back to my corpse.
After a res and some bandages the aforementioned druid goes riding by on his cat I see the name and target him. He’s level 67 same as me so I cast a quick hunters mark and get on my wolf. Trying to catch him before he gets too far away to catch up to.
He runs for a little bit then doubles back towards me so it’s going to be a fight instead of a chase.
Kiting his ganking butt around the plains was one of the most enjoyable things I’d done in a few levels. And the second time was as good as the first.
Both kites were complicated by pulling Mobs onto myself while kitting the druid but FD helped in both cases to get the mobs off me. I even got an aimed shot in the second time to keep him from healing himself well.