Two Things for PvP
In this screenshot, we are raid-spec’d but PvP-geared. We’re doing SSC tonight and don’t feel like blowing another 100g just to do some Alterac Valleys.
We accumulated enough honor for the season one ring, amulet, or PvP trinket. We hemmed and hawed, but broken down and purchased our Medallion of the Alliance. What was our reasoning? Deathcoil and Psychic Scream. We rarely get hurricaned, or whatever it is druids do. We avoid most crowd-control abilities with The Beast Within.
But Deathcoil and Psychic Scream, those two yucky spells are what we dread the most, specifically for their duration. Deathcoil in an arena will send us to the other side of the place, removing us from combat for approximately 27 years. It’s not good; none of our teammates survive for long while we’re out of combat. To eliminate that scenario, we took the less-powerful but we hope more-useful item.
And we decided to change out the gem in our shoulders for a Steady Talasite.
Is this going to make us invincible? Nah. Are we now committed to the 300 Resilience Plateau? You betcha.
Bradshaw on 16 Mar 2008 at 1:20 pm #
I support your choice for the Medallion. It’s one of the most useful tinkets I’ve found in the game. It used to be great to have in the old 60 raid (Ony off the top of my head). A very wise choice that you will not regret.
Trollin' on 16 Mar 2008 at 1:34 pm #
The thing about the Medallion is that it’s pretty much assumed that everyone has one. You even pretty much need one later on in raiding. Rage Winterchill becomes easy sauce if everyone has the trinket and Archimonde is a lot easier if you can break the fears quickly with it.
Ansawa on 16 Mar 2008 at 2:38 pm #
The medallion is win. I’m debating whether I want to go for that, or get the Vindicator’s Chain Sabatons first with my honor. The Vindicator boots are a big step up from what I have on now (rogue leather with no agility on it from Kara–yuck), but the Medallion is awesome for those situations where I get surprised before I can pop BW.
One thing about it, though–don’t trinket out of Deathcoil! My brother plays a PvP-heavy warlock, and he laughs every time he sees someone get out of it with their trinket. Trinketing out of Deathcoil, which is the shortest-duration fear a warlock has, is a waste of a cooldown. If fear is a really huge killer in arenas for you to the point where even Deathcoil is messing you up, consider getting your Disci priest to put Fear Ward on YOU, or add a shaman to your team for Tremor Totem.
Interesting that resilience is proving an aid for you in the 1500s. I’m around there with my 2v2 team (me and a Discipline priest most of the time) and I’ve never come up against a situation where I’ve gone “hm, I need more resilience”. I have none (almost none if I have my PvP crossbow on) and I’ve never had an issue where I’ve eaten a big string of crits or gotten dotted to death–usually once that happens, my priest is already dead and the battle is lost.
Could just be my battlegroup, though. Cyclone is special in many ways, not the least of which is that Alliance actually wins a lot of battlegrounds a lot of the time.
Ahoni on 16 Mar 2008 at 3:33 pm #
Deathcoil: Causes the enemy target to run in horror for 3 sec and causes 319 Shadow damage.
You might be referring to Howl of Terror or a regular Fear.
BRK on 16 Mar 2008 at 4:54 pm #
Howl of Terror, whatever it is that makes us scamper from one end of the Blades Edge arena, across the bridge, into the other starting area, out the door, across the zone, into Netherstorm, and then finally releases us.
Horns on 16 Mar 2008 at 7:05 pm #
from one end of the Blades Edge arena, across the bridge, into the other starting area, out the door, across the zone, into Netherstorm, and then finally releases us.
Yep, that’s fear
PT on 16 Mar 2008 at 9:34 pm #
I seem to recall that poll where the Steady won, but was ignored by a dwarf hunter…….. : P
I haven’t done ONE pvp thing in my playing of WoW. No BGs, and not 70 just yet so no arenas. But from all the reading I have done, it seems resilience IS pretty important. Heck, it’s one of the stats everyone uses when OOC’ing for partners. e.g. 300 resil lfp
Let us know how much difference you find with the more you apply BRK! Inquiring minds want to know! And thanks for all the reading material.
PT
vcproj on 17 Mar 2008 at 7:30 am #
And now you’re back to the resilience gem.
Like I said from the very beginning. Heh.
Arena is all about stamina and resilience. It’s that simple. The longer you can outlast your opponent the more damage you can do.
The medallion is an excellent choice. Now you have ‘two’ trinkets to get out of CC. The medallion and BW.
Had a great week this week. 15-2 in 2’s and 11-3 in 3s.
I have about 3k arena points that I’m going to try and hold on to until the next season.
50k in honor to get next seasons goodies as well.
Rock on man!
Guy on 17 Mar 2008 at 8:35 am #
Good man for making the choice to get to 300 resilence.
PvP gear is for PvP, and PvE gear is for PvE…. Okay, not really. But seriously those are pure pvp shouders and you’ll be getting new pve shoulders soon if you don’t already have them.
I did lol at your break down on geming choices from a few weeks ago, but I’ll tell you since concentrating on resilence I’ve become a lot more survivable in the BGs.
I broke 305res this weekend when I met my guilds demands for Archimonde by getting that same trinket.
Grats to us both I guess. Now if I can only manage to get 10 arena games in and get the last 6 arena points needed for my S3 pants…
Druid CC on 17 Mar 2008 at 9:16 am #
Is called Cyclone.
The trinket was a good choice, too!
yunk on 17 Mar 2008 at 9:22 am #
Hey psychic scream is only 8 sec, not very long, just stay feared the whole 8 sec so I can heal myself please. kthxbai
megan on 17 Mar 2008 at 10:06 am #
200+ Resilience, nice so far. My dorf friend, you’ve come a long way since I first pestered you about PVP. It is worth every penny when it comes down to it as a stat—and remember in 2.4 a percentage of Mana Burn/Drain effects will be reduced based on Resilience (another reason Imp. Stings over Mortal Shots is very key for even BM Hunters).
If you still don’t believe in Resilience, me (Holy Pally) and a Disc Priest friend ran through 10 Horde at IB GY chokepoint (they knocked us off our mounts), we managed to live and escape into Tower Point tower while being chased by 3 (including 2 Hunters).. with 2 pets chomping on us we still managed to cap Tower Point with good timing of HOJ and AE Fear. Then we killed the 3 attackers when they ran OOM from not being able to kill us (lolsmite, lolpallywings). Not once during the whole thing did we get to drink/eat.
pelides on 17 Mar 2008 at 10:51 am #
Since I moved my toon over to Drenden to become apvp’er, I’ve gotten my resilience up to 337 and have a plan to get it to 395 pretty soon, but unfortunately that involves going into Black Morass and finally getting exalted with Keepers of Time and then getting the Talisman of the Alliance.
I’ve been scpecing back and forth between marks and beast and am finding I have a heck of a lot more fun playing marks in BG’s than I do BM. Scatter shot, silencing and HUGE aimed shots really help in there and the 337 resilience makes all the difference. Might not have the sustained damaged anymore, but the burst damage makes up for it and a carefully chosen silencing shot is very very satisfying… followed up with a scatter shot of course for maximum caster annoyance.
Also been having a blast with improved wing clip. Annoying rogue stunlocking you and taking 24 days to kill you? Trinket. Wing clip. Get to range. Concussive. Serpent sting. Kite. So much fun! Actually busted out the scorpid again. Hate it when the trinket is cooled down!
And is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that ret pallies seem to be the vultures of the Battlegrounds? Let the rogues and casters do the damage and then a ret pally suddenly busts in, stuns you and get the killing blow? Just something I noticed over the last week.
Mike on 17 Mar 2008 at 11:42 am #
Why would you even consider the s1 ring or amulet? Save up the extra 3000 honor or whatever in one night and get the s3 version.
Syzygium on 18 Mar 2008 at 1:39 am #
/cast Derail Thread
@ pelides: your huntermayhem site is down!
just before you /quit WoW you were talking about a new - or at least different from DamageMeter - damage meter… Was trying to find the name of it, and if it took into consideration pet damage?
/cast Return you to your regular scheduled programming
Cheers
Syz
pelides on 18 Mar 2008 at 9:50 am #
@Syzygium
Yeah, huntermayhem.com is down… for good. I’m not really raiding with him anymore and started a new blog that focuses more on my real life interests…. music, film and politics.
I started that blog as an exercise in daily writing more than anything else. Enjoyed it while I was writing it, but I need to move on to writing my screenplay and blogging about stuff that hits a little more closely to home for me.
Anyone know any good, old-fashioned names for a Romanian woman?
Syzygium on 18 Mar 2008 at 6:50 pm #
@pelides
Best of luck with it all then
Oh, and google is your friend…
http://www.20000-names.com/female_romanian_names.htm