Late Weekend Thoughts
We were in the AH when someone said, “Would somebody please give me one gold so I could buy some bags?”
A typical beggar, we didn’t think so. This smelled like someone brand-new to the game. We whispered and asked, and we were right. Level eight rogue, just installed the game today.
We told him about double-gathering, specifically mining and skinning. We taught him how to Track Minerals. We told him to not buy gear from the Auction House as he’d need 90 gold once he hit level 40, that the gear would take care of itself. He was very appreciative and happy as he set off with his mining pick. We hope he makes buckets of payola.
The Lesson: one don’t have to teach the Jump Shot to be a good WoW Citizen.
We’ve placed bids on the Shoulders of Lightning Reflexes pattern (which we lost) and two Hearts of Darkness (which we won). Three hundred for the pattern, three hundred fifty a pop for the HoDs, yikes. We won bids on five Primal Airs, we had one already. We got six Primal Waters from the guild bank, putting Primal Manas as well as about 10,000 Crunchy Serpent stacks, back in. We’ve got the leather on-hand, natch.
What was the killer was the sixteen Wind Scales. Just the other day, we farmed ten of them for the GM so he could get a belt made, now we had to get sixteen more! The wind serpents in Netherstorm are our favorite source because we can kill Warp Hunters for Warp Burgers at the same time. But the scales have only a 20% drop rate, and there are only 6-10 Wind Serpents alive at any one time. Killing another eighty of them just took forever. And it’s not like there any of these scales on the Auction House, either.
Let’s just say it: the Sun-daily quests are too bloody easy. The Nessingwary quests were harder, for crying out loud. Kill six demons and plant a flag on a dead one? Get four piles of mana-poo? Convert five robots? Even the bombing run has been nerfed. There is zero challenge, and we defy anybody to disagree.
What we DO like are the two Hellfire Sun-quests where there’s a 25-man world raid boss just waiting for someone to do something stupid. And stupid things, people do them. That’s more like it. Blizz should release those demons from the Dead Scar and let them run amok on the Isle. That’d shake those daily quests up.
We would love a return of the Aldor/Scryer vs Netherwing battles in SMV, transplanted to the Isle. Have us go with a Sun-battalion into a battle and have to survive, or keep the leader alive. There’s a war on this island, and we should get more involved.
The Netherwing mines are empty. Wanna make some gold? Take your skinner and do the Netherwing mine-dailies.
The skinning Sun-daily is awesome. We farm Clefthoofs for that, and we’ve been selling a stack of Thick Clefthoof leather every day for 40 gold. /ca-ching!
We spent and hour and a half killing the Netherstorm mana-forge elves trying to get the Plans to drop before it dawned on us that… we forgot to get the quest. /doh
It’s a d@mn free-for all in BEM with the boxes of mana one has to collect. Civility is out the window. You see a box and the mana worm guarding it, you engage the mana worm, and some b@stard runs up and steals your mana box. Over and over again, this happened to us. Did we descend to their level? Never. We got our ten boxes and kept our dignity. We hope you do, too.
You want to run heroic MrT, you’d better remember how to Trap. If you’re running with a protection Paladin, you’d better work with him on pulling. A method we’ve found useful is to use a modified BRK Pull Shot first:
/castsequence reset=5 Distracting Shot, Arcane Shot
/stopcasting
This will require you to smack your Pull Shot button two times, but generate a ton o-threat.
Once the mobs are in the Paladin’s range, he drops a single Consecrate. The hunter’s mob will continue to follow the Hunter as the Consecrate isn’t enough threat to overtake the Distracting/Arcane combo’s threat, and the other mobs will latch onto the Paladin. This technique has worked pretty well for us
Hunter pets should equip fist weapons. We thought of this at lunch today, and we’re really taken with the idea. And winged pets should be able to dual-equip daggers, like they were lashed to their tail. Hobbes with two fist-weapons, we need this ASAP.
Charlton Heston died. If you’ve never seen the original “The Ten Commandments” or “Ben-Hur“, do yourself a favor and add them to your Netflix queue. If you’re in a relationship with a girl, do not watch “The Ten Commandments” with her unless she’s 100% committed to you, because a young Heston and Yul Brynner will steal them from you in a second.
So sayeth BRK, so let it be done.



Tuna on 08 Apr 2008 at 7:13 am #
You want Sun-daily quests to be more challenging? Try doing them on a PvP server. The thrill of picking up “mana poo” while 4-5 rogues are lurking around every corner!
I sometimes wonder how my server is even making any Sunwell progress with all the ganking that is going on…
About the people stealing your mana crates when you pull the worms: Feign death and let them deal with it, and you grab the box
shake on 08 Apr 2008 at 7:14 am #
what the !@#$.
For me its different. the other class watch and wait for we hunters to engage the mana worm so that they can steal our one. I put the pet of it and go straight for the mana box and gloat at the noobs.
Easyisgood on 08 Apr 2008 at 7:18 am #
The easiness of the Sun dailies might be another response by Blizzard to combat gold farmers. I mean 100g in 30 min is gonna make gold buying pointless for all but the laziest of people. Not sure what they can do about inflation though…
Syrloyn on 08 Apr 2008 at 7:31 am #
Come on BRK….You can’t forget to add in “The Omega Man”, Will Smith would have nothing to work from when he did “I am Legend”, Heston and the original book, thats all there is to that.
jumb on 08 Apr 2008 at 7:52 am #
WTF are you on about with the mana cubes? You see a worm and a box? Send in your pet on the worm, loot the box, by the time you’re done your pet will enough aggro for you to lay into the worm to finish it off. Still too much? Trap the mob and loot the box.
I’m surprised YOU of all people aren’t playing to the strengths of your hunter!
jumb on 08 Apr 2008 at 8:00 am #
PS, that came out a little harsh. Was a good post, just that paragraph made me double take.
itsyourchoice on 08 Apr 2008 at 8:13 am #
Yep, pet on worm with mend, grab mana cell, turn and finish worm.
On a side note, anyone else notice a few mana boxes that respawn 3-5x immediately after a grab? I stood in 1 spot last night and got 5 cells as the silly thing kept respawning after I grabbed it.
Nick S. on 08 Apr 2008 at 8:19 am #
all of the new dailies are easy EXCEPT for the stupid naga-killing ore-finding quest. the naga are way overcamped, at least on my server.
even though i’m on a PvP server, i’ve found most people are relatively civil everywhere but at the mana cells - there it gets nasty sometimes.
Eko on 08 Apr 2008 at 8:20 am #
About your Wind Scales, what works for me is to farm them in Blade’s Edge Mountains, in the area that’s right next to the word Death’s Door in the map. There you’ll find lots of red Wind Serpents among red raptors. There are just too many serpents and the drop rates are ok. You won’t collect warp burgers though…
Bryguy on 08 Apr 2008 at 8:25 am #
I let my pet tank while I tap the box, then I kill the worm. Unlike treasure chests you can open mana cell boxes during combat.
Deathrender on 08 Apr 2008 at 8:53 am #
I’m going to have to agree with the first commenter. You want to spice up your dailies on the Island…turn your pvp flag on.. I’m sure there are more than enough Hordies willing to attempt to end your life as you tool around.
Speaking of which, I think the “guards” have their priorities a little mixed up. They’ll let fiends stroll right on into the staging area to eat your face but heaven forbid you try and shoot a flagged player!
Anyways, the only quest so far I have “trouble” with would be the bombing run out to the ships. Packing on 15-20 players per boat for 5-6 reservist spawns = not fun times. I’ve found the best way is to set my pet to Aggressive and literally stand on a spawn point. Might take you a while to get your 6 but it works.
But yeah, the plans in Netherstorm, easy. I’ve never had to kill more than 10 elves for it to drop. The readings in Nagrand, cake walk if you have a flying mount. The cells in BEM, easy peasy if you put pet on wyrm, loot your box, then finish off the worm. And I too have had the same box respawn immediately 3-4 times.
So about 90 minutes to two hours nets me about 1,750 rep or so (haven’t done the math for all of them), over 120 gold from the dailies themselves, probably a few greens, at least half a dozen or more signets, usually a few Arcane Tomes, blah, blah, blah. All I know is that I’ve had numerous 300 gold days so far and that will help my “Get Deathrender His Flubberglukking Epic Flying Training” fund.
For the Pie on 08 Apr 2008 at 8:55 am #
BRK,
One the need for wind serpents/warp burgers.
1) Learn to fish
2) Fish for mudfish and crawdads and such.
3) ???
4) Profit.
Seriously, on my server, I can sell a stack of Crawdads or Fisherman’s feast (+30 Stam) faster than I can leather unless I sell it for 3X vendor pricing, instead of what auctioneer says it should go for.
All my pets eat the same fish recipe and since it’s the barbed trout I get a ton of it, so I never have to worry about running out.
Good on you helping the newbie to WOW. Did you help him find bags?
Corwyn on 08 Apr 2008 at 8:56 am #
You might have mentioned to the level 8 rogue that bags are available on the auction house for a couple of silver. Bags are one of the few things I think should be gotten as soon as possible. They are huge time savers.
Thank You Kindly.
vcproj on 08 Apr 2008 at 9:06 am #
Yes.
Play on a pvp server.
The dallies aren’t as easy when you run into a roving band of horde.
I CHOSE not to roll on a pve (carebear) server, because I like the added thrill of having to watch your back.
I also find it odd you don’t send in your pet and loot.
Would have thought that’s the first thing you of all people would do…
Joel on 08 Apr 2008 at 9:12 am #
Of course the dailies are too easy for you - apart from the three bombing quests, the survey quest, and the fishing quest - having MQoSRDPS is a HUGE advantage. My hunter can finish her round of dailies in about a 1/3 of the time that it takes my tanks. (I shudder to think about doing them on my healer). I wish Blizzard would design a quest where tanking or healing is needed, though that would be tricky to pull off. I’m just grateful that I can do the dailies on my tanking toons, even if the quests are trivial for DPS toons.
Guy on 08 Apr 2008 at 9:39 am #
I REFUSE to believe that BRK actually uses Distracting shot for the pull and MDs.
it MUST be a typo.
tsk!
Rimar on 08 Apr 2008 at 9:42 am #
I just started the mana cubes quest and have it’s sometimes a free-for-all. I also did not think to do the petattack/mend and run and loot the box either.. but I usually do not have more than an annoyance getting that one done. Once done, I will stick around and help others kill the worms. helped a horde warlock the other day that way (I’m Alliance).
Yes, with epic flying mount, the flames in Nagrand is as easy as quests get.
For the fishing quest, I , spent 2 hours fishing beside the quest giver until I re-read the quest to see why I wasn’t getting the quest fish. Oh! Fish in STREAMS.. Just like it plainly says. heh oops. I went to a stream and got the quest fish right off.
Speaking of right off, I have gotten the Attack Plans from the first sunfury bowman I killed, 2 days running now. I go to the Hold where the most bowmen are because I am an engineer and they drop good schematics (got the Khorium Scope and Adamantite Arrow maker).
As for the Nether residue ; most places are mined out. completely. In months of playing I have sen only 4 khorium nodes in the game. I’ve seen only 30 Adamantite nodes. Fel Iron seems pretty abundant. So I just cruise Hellfire for that quest and shortly have it done.
GriderGirl on 08 Apr 2008 at 10:52 am #
Gathering is for noobs, teach them how to make real money…
Buying up mats and turning them into a profit with a real trade skill.
Easily… buying Mats for 100g can turn into 250g. daily…
For what.. 15 minutes… Tops!..
Saves lots of time when I want to run Kara, Gruuls, BT, and Z’A.
Patyn on 08 Apr 2008 at 10:57 am #
Nether Residue with herbalism is just plain awful, I think.
Granted, there’s the added bonus of all the pots I can make when I finish, but I’m talking a good 2 hours a day solid of farming herbs just to get the 8 residues.
I don’t have that kind of time, so the residue quest ends up being more weekly instead of daily for me.
The others, no problems with. I really like the bombing one…it’s nice to be bombing something without getting knocked out of the air by cannons.
Rubella on 08 Apr 2008 at 11:31 am #
(Fill in the blank) Opinions about dailies are like ___________, everyone’s got one. The only wriong wat to do a daily quest is to NOT do the daily quest.
But important information is here: “They’re people!!!!!!”
Best. Heston. Movie. Ever.
Pidge on 08 Apr 2008 at 11:38 am #
Agree with you that the dailies are embarassingly easy. Seems to me that Blizz is just making sure that everyone can gear up while they wait for the expansion.
Trivial dailies, non-bound nether and vortices, rep and badge pvp gear, badges in possible daily rewards — they all seem about lowering the barriers for more people to craft/buy gear so they can at least peek into some of the end-game content.
Not that I’m complaining too much — alt #3 will be getting his epic flyer thanks too Blizz’s largesse.
But certainly a big change from the repeatable quests back in the day in Azeroth (I still shudder from the Silithus rep grinds for Cenarian and Brood…”kill 400 Hive Sisters and gather 10,000 shell fragments…”).
Agree too that Netherwing remains a gold mine (literally) if you have 1 or 2 gathering skills. The synergy of quests is great.
Miners and herbalists can cirlce the surface for nodes for Netherwing turnins, gather herbs or adamantite ore, and complete booterang. All the nodes have a chance to drop nether residue and ore nodes seem to be dropping a lot more blue gems than before. Ditto in the mines for miners and skinners.
[@ Joel -- there are a couple quests that require healing. The old classic was the one to heal the NPCs fighting the big bug in Silithus. Now there is the Aldor repeatable in SMV where you can heal NPCs to fend off waves of dragon-riding attackers. Can't think of any others off the top of my head.]
Well, back to go grind those dailies….
Melian on 08 Apr 2008 at 11:40 am #
Hunter vs mana cells is easy; pet on wyrm, loot the box. Allows my pet to build some threat, a plus for a survival hunter.
For non-ranged toons (my paladin and feral druid for example) it’s easiest to grab the mana wyrm and position it on top of the box you intend on looting afterwards. They have a little aoe aura that seems to prevent anyone from looting the box while you’re fighting on top of it, since they take damage.
That’s what works for me anyway
Arides on 08 Apr 2008 at 11:44 am #
Agreed about the nether residue herb drop. As in, it doesn’t.
If you’re not in a rush, do the Nagrand quest on foot–you’ll lose a lot of readings to people swooping in on flying mounts and getting there first, but you’ll kill a lot of air elementals and voidwalkers while waiting. I wind up with around about 10-12 motes of shadow and 5-6 motes of air every time I do that quest, and that’s not even bothering with the earth elementals.
I found the Isle of Quel’Whatsit quests became immensely more interesting by simply putting my pet on aggressive. With the cracked-out spawn rates, especially in the harbor area and where the Legion demon portal is, this can lead to chain-pulls of easily eight to ten mobs with sometimes three or four on me at the same time. Endless entertainment, high challenge, and some blood elf gives you ten gold at the end of it. What’s not to like? Minor downside is the cat will sometimes run off and start smacking something another person has tagged, but I’ve found people generally don’t get offended by the help. If they do, I apologize and blame “that pet bug, you know the one”.
This being said, I’m not on a PVP server. On a PVP server this would be very very very very very very very very stupid and bad.
But probably still fun.
Rob on 08 Apr 2008 at 11:55 am #
You know, I cry every time I have to do the spiritual soup daily, that requires 4 clefthide meat. I dropped mine/skin a while ago for herb/alch. The server I was on at the time had little herbalists. This new server (ghostlands) - all herbs. So now I see several rich adam. veins doing my dailies. Oh well. I guess the point is when you have an epic, what do you spend money on? Sure you can get that rare BT pat (if you are LW), but there isn’t much to spend on, except enchants and gems. That’s what I spend my money on anyway, i’ve been gearing up quite a bit and going through 1000 a week. Still, even with that, i’m 2000 up and nothing to do with it (my alts are all on a dift server, natch).
Softi on 08 Apr 2008 at 12:01 pm #
hmmm a young Yul Brynner…. /purr
sorry, what were you saying? Oh yea… hunter stuff *right*
I’ve been sending in the pet to take aggro while i pick up the mana cells, it’s dog-eat-dog out there so ya gotta be quick!
As for the dailies being too easy, better that than too hard at least?
Fearstalker on 08 Apr 2008 at 12:07 pm #
BRK,
What are you going to recommend to leveling hunters now that “Blue” has announced that a boar nerf is coming?.. (the AP bonus on Growl/Charge is officially going away).
This seems to make boars not viable (or at least not a great choice) in the endgame anymore when soloing, and probably even when leveling. Better to have the cat now or WS or ?…
Seems that the days of a tanking pet are reaching an end.
GriderGirl on 08 Apr 2008 at 12:15 pm #
@Fearstalker
You have spots for 3 pets.
Get a threat meter. Send pet in let it get aggro and go from there. There is no right or wrong pet.
Do some research at Petopia…
Cats are fun, as are ravagers, Bears are cool, and so are dogs!… Your preference. But you can have 3 pets and spec them all for different resistances.
Even at a low level, I always used my Ghost Saber.. mixed with a Bear and even an owl.
Just have fun.. love your pet. Don’t use the status quo!
Fearstalker on 08 Apr 2008 at 12:34 pm #
@GriderGirl
The threat isn’t so much the issue now, since Blizz is going to take away the large benefit that boars had. (Basically making charge the same as Dash, but costing more training points).
But for anyone leveling, you are correct. Every hunter should experiment with all sorts of pets, and of course, know Petopia very well.
But for the endgame, no reason to keep your boar now.
(If Blizz would just give Bears some love…)
RyuHakubi on 08 Apr 2008 at 12:38 pm #
@Fearstalker:
What’s the link from “blue” about the boar nerf being official? Not doubting you, I just can’t find anything other than blue saying they’ve tested pets on 2.4 and 2.33 and THEY don’t see any problem with general pet threat. Which, as every hunter here knows, is pretty bogus. I just want to know if I should start getting pissy now or later about the RFK boar I leveled being slightly less useful than my windserpent…
Arides on 08 Apr 2008 at 12:42 pm #
Start now. Mania at Petopia has the direct link. And yes I raised a boar in the last two weeks, starting before the patch. Poor pigpig
If he loses his extra aggro bonus there is no reason to keep him, except that he is cute–but when WotLK comes out, barring a miracle, I’ll need that empty stable slot again.
(And yeah, thread is wandering wayyy off subject; feel free to delete wayward comment).
Nick on 08 Apr 2008 at 12:44 pm #
@Melian
that is a super awesome idea - i’m going to try that.
@Fearstalker
i use my boar because it has Charge. getting into combat quickly and knocking mobs off of me when i accidentally pull aggro is job 1 for my pet when i’m farming. i have a ravager for dps - as long as they don’t take Charge away completely, i’m a happy Hunter.
might suck for those who use Boars in arenas, though.
Fearstalker on 08 Apr 2008 at 12:51 pm #
@RyuHakubi
Check the posts in the forums here. (Can’t link from work.)
But the quote is:
“I have confirmed with the developers that Boar’s growl ability getting such a large bonus to attack power based on charge is a bug. Growl should only benefit from the hunter’s attack power and get no benefit from buffs to the pet’s attack power.
Expect this to be changed in a future patch. If you disagree with this change please post about it in the suggestions or class forums.”
So, the best benefit that the Boar had is going to be “normalized” to be the same as Dash as far as I can tell from this. Since the stun effect of Charge doesn’t happen all the time, and more mobs are resisting it, there’s just not a real benefit to boars anymore over other pets when leveling. They aren’t terrible, but they aren’t special anymore either.
@Nick
Looks like Charge will be the same as Dash, so……
Since 2.4, I’ve found the aggro on my Cat and Boar to be the same, so if the Cat is doing more DPS….
For the Pie on 08 Apr 2008 at 1:32 pm #
@ Nick
A boar in arenas is for the 1 second stun/imobilize/whatever not for the aggro. There is no aggro in Arenas unless it’s a pet.
I usually leave my cat in raid spec and use my boar for grinding/questing/dailies etc. Although I am training up a young wind serpent named ElOMental (dang blizz not allowing spaces or characters in the names) who will become my raid pet for non-nature resist bosses and the cat will do for my nature resist bosses.
I may get rid of the boar and go Scorpid for times when I need that pet in arenas.
Indi on 08 Apr 2008 at 1:36 pm #
Just nuke the mana worms - dont worry about your pet getting enough aggro. I can usually kill them before they get to me:
1) Aimed shot
2) Steady shot
3) Arcane shot
4) Auto shot
Quite often the aimed crits for 2500+ (41/20 BM), dropping them to half health, and maybe by the time they get to me they have under 10%. If you are far enough away, your steady shot is almost away before the aimed shot gets to the mob (and thus before the mob starts running at you), and the arcane/auto combo is nearly instant.
5) wing clip & swing the giant s3 axe while running thru them toward the mana cell
6) jump-shot arcane shot
7) loot
Oh, almost forgot, step 0.5 is /petattack (of course)
Maevet on 08 Apr 2008 at 1:38 pm #
Fly in, find a spot where 2 boxes are guarded by 1 worm, dismount low to the ground, let the pet hit the worm, drop a freezer, loot boxes, FD, remount and zip off.
I like the new dailies being short. I can cram 2 or 3 in before I have to pick my wife up from work.
dorgol on 08 Apr 2008 at 2:11 pm #
@GriderGirl: “Gathering is for noobs, teach them how to make real money…”
I’m going to assume you are a Jewelcrafter? Maybe an Alchemist?
Because Tailoring, Blacksmithing, Leatherworking, Engineering, and (especially) Enchanting don’t really have easy to craft fast money makers. Mind you, with the right pattern those tradeskills CAN make money, but not nearly so easily as JC / Alchemy.
Doogie2K on 08 Apr 2008 at 2:36 pm #
Let’s just say it: the Sun-daily quests are too bloody easy.
I think they have to be, since the assumption is that everyone and his grandmother’s dog are going to be doing them. We’d be there for hours if we had to fight with 50 other players for 20 kills on the same dozen demons, instead of only 6. Even worse if you’re on a dirtbag (PVP) server.*
We got our ten boxes and kept our dignity. We hope you do, too.
With my fellow Alliance, I generally lived and let live. Against the Horde, screw ‘em. I would expect nothing less in return. (Especially since they were griefing last night by parking, flagged, on top of the questgivers while the server was sitting on 99% of phase two. Dicks.) Also…what everyone else said about pet-tanking. I mean, really.
* - Hey, it’s only fair. You call us carebears. WTF is that?
Fearstalker on 08 Apr 2008 at 2:44 pm #
@For the Pie
/agree
This is probably the push I need to drop the boar and get the scorpid.
Papaoomowmow on 08 Apr 2008 at 3:27 pm #
just a little random babble…
Your pet (with a starting mend) can actually kill the worm one on one…so you can wander off and loot several mana cells if they are nearby.
Today our server finished the anvil, so I couldn’t even get to the weapons seller to pick up a quest…lol…will try again later.
There had to be over 50 players swarming around.
Question. I live in Maryland but was placed on a west coast server (Cenarius). I have a fast internet connection (20m download 2m upload) but generally get latencies in the 300 or 400s…and even now and again bright reds and lag. Now I know distance always reduces performance somewhat…would a paid transfer to an east coast server improve matters? Has anyone here ever made a move to a “closer to home” server? Did it help game performance?
Thanks in advance for suggestions.
Fearstalker on 08 Apr 2008 at 3:34 pm #
@ Papaoomowmow
Depends on server population, not the time zone, since all the servers are in Irvine CA anyway. (Oceanic are there too).
Cenarius is a pretty mature server, so be sure of what you are getting into if you do change.
cgeorgemo on 08 Apr 2008 at 4:51 pm #
@Doggie2K
Is it actually that HARD to kill a Horde that it is griefing to flag PVP and stand in one spot waiting to be killed? Heck gather some of your friends and have a fight.
modulok on 08 Apr 2008 at 5:03 pm #
Try collecting “mana turds” as a protection paladin. Those mobs do a mana drain, silence and sunder. Pretty much my worst nightmare to solo. I didn’t even know that they had those ability’s when I was playing my warlock because they were dead too fast. You probably have the same problem.
Celi on 08 Apr 2008 at 6:17 pm #
Bought the pattern for the shoulders yesterday for my hunter, and gathered all the mats the same day. Well… actually I bought most of it. Pattern for 400g, Hearts for 200g/each, primal airs and water for 20-30g/each… but I did farm the leather and wind scales.
And funny enough, just the day before the pattern popped on AH and I bought it, I also helped a friend farm scales and me running behind and skinning everything. And he got my last scales (I dont need those, right?). Oh the irony, it hurts.
Bit expensive, considering I got myself the epic flying mount (second character) this same week, but with all the new dailies, you get more gold than you know what to do with!
Doogie2K on 08 Apr 2008 at 7:00 pm #
@Doggie2K
Is it actually that HARD to kill a Horde that it is griefing to flag PVP and stand in one spot waiting to be killed? Heck gather some of your friends and have a fight.
Leaving aside the butchery of my name, yes it is when you accidentally click one and six or seven of them gang…up on you at the same time and no one bothers to flag and help. Alliance just wasn’t much interested in fighting the Horde; if they were, the other 75 or so who were there would have flagged and we’d have had an old-fashioned brawl. That would’ve been quite fun, really, lag and lateness notwithstanding, but of course, that would require the Alliance to actually give a flying crap, and this is Thorium Brotherhood, so they don’t. Actually, of all the things TB does spectacularly poorly, and there are many, PVP is perhaps the most egregious example. We have a Tauren Shaman named Ashishishe who is legendary for spending all day killing Alliance NPCs in Telaar — and no one bloody does anything about it. Halaa might as well be the second Horde city in Nagrand for how often and how long the Alliance owns it.
Sigh…I complain but I do enjoy my server, honestly. If I took this game more seriously, I might not, but hey, I’m just here to smack/shoot things in the face.
Papaoomowmow on 08 Apr 2008 at 7:01 pm #
“since all the servers are in Irvine CA anyway. (Oceanic are there too).”
Thanks Fearstalker! I did not know that. You probably saved me from a $25 mistake. Appreciate it.
TheeNickster on 08 Apr 2008 at 10:41 pm #
The challenge from the sun-daily’s comes from all the kill stealing!
Ankle and Catbert
Bristinie on 09 Apr 2008 at 1:01 am #
WTB Crunchy Serpent
kthxbye
Seriously, if you are farming it up anyways, I will pay lots and lots of goldeney pixels for spldmg food!
Zad on 09 Apr 2008 at 2:25 am #
thanks brk for the paly tank suggestions!!
Belphzooka on 09 Apr 2008 at 3:43 am #
Re windscales
The dragonhawks at Eclipsion Point in Shadowmoon also drop them when skinned. Not at all busy there, and at least a dozen up at any time.
Boobah on 09 Apr 2008 at 4:22 am #
On Eonar the phased mana worms are becoming a pretty common mob to farm for motes of mana. Unless there’s another reason people run around killing the mobs and leaving the boxes behind.
Also, standing on top of boxes with worms you’re fighting doesn’t do anything to stop jerks from taking the box; the damage aura doesn’t do a thing to stop one from opening the boxes.
Mudge on 09 Apr 2008 at 4:27 am #
Have they increased the spawn rate on Ravagers in the Nethermine or something? I went in there today and they were swarming all over. Killed 5 in about 2 minutes … not complaining but it was weird.
Fearstalker on 09 Apr 2008 at 11:04 am #
@ Mudge
Yep, they did.
Kemonojin on 09 Apr 2008 at 11:17 am #
Mudge, they added more of them. Was a huge pain in the ass to have to kill 5 when only 3 spawned at once and 69,105 other people were after them too…
I love the quests… yes, they’re easy, but they are fun, and it means I don’t have to go claw another ten thousand ogre plumber pants on my feral druid to get money for my hunter to get her epic roflcopter. I have herbalism, and never had any problem getting the 8 residue I needed; get Cartographer and the routes module. Takes me all of ten minutes. Took a little longer with the miner hunter, as ore nodes are more scarce.
I’m really sick of people calling me ‘carebear’ because I don’t feel like being camped for hours at a time by pinheads who think that pvp means ‘be as big a dick as you can until someone stronger makes you stop’. You’re on a pvp server. Whoopee. You’ve proven that you have a high tolerance for irritation. And that’s it. It doesn’t make you any better at the game than anyone else. The fact that I choose to fight things that can do five million points of damage in one shot if things go bad does not make me less than you who exploit bugs and latency by jumping constantly like a caffeniated crack monkey.
You do what you find fun in the game, and I’ll do what I find fun in the game, ok? Just knock off the name calling.
Galorfinor on 09 Apr 2008 at 11:59 am #
@Papaoomownow
Not all the Realms are in Irvine, here’s a link of Blizz Datacenters where the Realms reside in the US;
http://www.wowwiki.com/US_realm_list_by_datacenter
this might help a little. I live in Austin and Eonar is in Dallas and I have some latency around 40 to 100 ms while I’m in Shatt but it gets lower while out an about in the outer areas. You may need to upgrade to 2GB of RAM or maybe your Vid Card.
I’m Running on a HP9500 Laptop wit Vista (yea I know but it works), 2GB Ram and Nv 8600 M with 512 MB vid and a 2.4 Ghz Intel Dou on a wireless connection with a wifi router and a cable modem.
Maybe if I hard wire into the router it might just go a little faster but not much. What kills me is my daughter AIM, I’m finding that when she’s on and we’re sharing the router we both get hose. So I play when she’s not on and I don’t have any problems.
Papaoomowmow on 09 Apr 2008 at 4:14 pm #
Thanks, Galorfinor! I might consider Exodar then (server in Boston)…I’m in Bethesda Maryland.
I don’t think it is my video card card or computer. My card, an NVIDIA GeForce 7900GS is far from cutting edge of course, but it’s a pretty competent compromise. My desktop has a couple gigs. And dual core 6700 processors (2.66 each). My router is the D-Link dgl-4100. Specifically designed for gaming and very fast. None of this the ultimate, but it oughtta be able to easily handle world of warcraft. And it has until lately.
For the moment my opinion is that the regular 300 to 450 latency…which rarely causes severe lag…is due to distance.
My recent severe latency (over a thousand) was probably due to my provider having some temporary local problems….better today. I will seriously consider Exodar.
I appreciate your time and the information.
As an aside, Lord Kazzak’s voice is a blast from the distant past.
Pretty sure they lifted it from the Road Warrior….the hilarious Mr Humongous. Cracks me up every time he bellows during those two dailies…
Pike on 09 Apr 2008 at 4:29 pm #
I’m having so much trouble pulling from pally tanks lately, it makes me feel incompetent… which clearly will not do…
*will probably steal the macro*
Oh and pro tip, don’t let him put Salv on you if you’re gonna be pulling. *nods*
Doogie2K on 09 Apr 2008 at 7:40 pm #
@Kemo
Nice.
That is all.
Galorfinor on 09 Apr 2008 at 11:28 pm #
@Papaoomowmow
NP glad to help out. Yeah, I had some issues with my ISP earthlink/Time Warner cable a few months ago. Called the cable company and they said it wasn’t their problem, called the ISP, they said it was the cable company, called the cable company again, (sigh) they said it’s an ISP issue, called the ISP back (one more time) and they said yep it’s us! Log In server was down, AAGGH, why didn’t they say that in the first place. And I pay how much a month, too much, lol.
Your system sounds like it shouldn’t be a problem, I’m playing with some in my guild that have Latency like 15 fps (I just cant see how they can play like that). GLK transferring to a sever that is closer just check out the ones that are in the Low to Med range in population during peak hrs that will also help out.
Cheers and Elune be with you
(yea, I’m a NE BM Hunter)
Galorfinor, Maggie Mae and REX
Indi on 12 Apr 2008 at 5:22 pm #
Often when I need to pull a mob to a trap from a pally who uses their shield is an arcane-auto-distracting. Maybe the auto isn’t needed, but, well, it’s automatic after the arcane shot.