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	<title>Comments on: Tier 5 Bonus Can&#8217;t Be Beat</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Waynebrady</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2008/04/17/tier-5-bonus-cant-be-beat/#comment-22060</link>
		<dc:creator>Waynebrady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 01:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chorius and Spot 

I havnt raided in a while (quiting the game) but I am pretty sure, if I remember right, you could time your mana pots, and other stuff to not delay your autoshot and even if it does it's really not a big deal ( you just have to time it right , so in other words use an autoshot timer). I know with drums you have to delay a shot though.

Also some people might hate me for this but if a hunter has to use a mana regen shot rotation ( just autoshot) he mis managed his Mana pot Cooldown. Last option scenario should be switching to aspect of the viper for a little bit. I used to start drinking a pot when I was at around 85% of mana , sometimes more and even then I still had to switch to AoTV towards the end of the fight for a little bit though (until my pot CD was back up to drink some another one). And this is with using a 3/2 rotation.

Which leads me to another point..If a paladin in the raid is not actively trying to put up and puts up JoW get them too, especially if you have a ret paladin in your raid. For a hunter JoW is HUGE. Also having a resto shaman would help a little bit with their mana totems, but more importantly cause of the extra dps you could do with them in your party. A good hunter group IMO should have a resto shaman.

Anyways sorry if I offended anybody just trying to post some tips for my fellow hunters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chorius and Spot </p>
<p>I havnt raided in a while (quiting the game) but I am pretty sure, if I remember right, you could time your mana pots, and other stuff to not delay your autoshot and even if it does it&#8217;s really not a big deal ( you just have to time it right , so in other words use an autoshot timer). I know with drums you have to delay a shot though.</p>
<p>Also some people might hate me for this but if a hunter has to use a mana regen shot rotation ( just autoshot) he mis managed his Mana pot Cooldown. Last option scenario should be switching to aspect of the viper for a little bit. I used to start drinking a pot when I was at around 85% of mana , sometimes more and even then I still had to switch to AoTV towards the end of the fight for a little bit though (until my pot CD was back up to drink some another one). And this is with using a 3/2 rotation.</p>
<p>Which leads me to another point..If a paladin in the raid is not actively trying to put up and puts up JoW get them too, especially if you have a ret paladin in your raid. For a hunter JoW is HUGE. Also having a resto shaman would help a little bit with their mana totems, but more importantly cause of the extra dps you could do with them in your party. A good hunter group IMO should have a resto shaman.</p>
<p>Anyways sorry if I offended anybody just trying to post some tips for my fellow hunters.</p>
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		<title>By: Latigo</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2008/04/17/tier-5-bonus-cant-be-beat/#comment-22032</link>
		<dc:creator>Latigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Pelides

LOL, don't want to argue. I just didn't see a challenge in running a hunter. No I did not suck as a Hunter. I was my guild's class leader and I helped a lot of hunters with various builds and all that. 

CC, shot rotation is all good. 
I still find hunters boring. I am a pvp type so to me the rogue is much more interesting. 

You need to study rogues better if your example is how you think it's done. To provide max dps a rogue has to worry about rotation just as much as a hunter. What to do and when to do it, and time it just right. 

It's boring having my pet doing all the work...just sayin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pelides</p>
<p>LOL, don&#8217;t want to argue. I just didn&#8217;t see a challenge in running a hunter. No I did not suck as a Hunter. I was my guild&#8217;s class leader and I helped a lot of hunters with various builds and all that. </p>
<p>CC, shot rotation is all good.<br />
I still find hunters boring. I am a pvp type so to me the rogue is much more interesting. </p>
<p>You need to study rogues better if your example is how you think it&#8217;s done. To provide max dps a rogue has to worry about rotation just as much as a hunter. What to do and when to do it, and time it just right. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s boring having my pet doing all the work&#8230;just sayin.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2008/04/17/tier-5-bonus-cant-be-beat/#comment-21985</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brk, you owe it to yourself, and perhaps more importantly to your raid party, to try out a shot macro. at least on dr. boom. 

the game is a bunch of button pushing whether you use a macro or not; the macro just changes the button. myself, i use ctrl-mouse-wheel down for the 1:1 and shift-mouse-wheel down for the 3:2 when i really want to dish out the pain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brk, you owe it to yourself, and perhaps more importantly to your raid party, to try out a shot macro. at least on dr. boom. </p>
<p>the game is a bunch of button pushing whether you use a macro or not; the macro just changes the button. myself, i use ctrl-mouse-wheel down for the 1:1 and shift-mouse-wheel down for the 3:2 when i really want to dish out the pain.</p>
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		<title>By: Nitehawke</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2008/04/17/tier-5-bonus-cant-be-beat/#comment-21974</link>
		<dc:creator>Nitehawke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Several things can cause more steady shots than autos, but the most common answer is that many BM hunters are using a 3:2 macro (that becomes 1:1 with haste effects).  This means that every few autoshots, if your weapon is slow enough, you fit two steadys in there.

Also, it can be a sign of extreme clipping.  You pack your steadys so close together that you miss autos entirely.  

I have also gotten results like that sometimes when I have horrible lag spikes.  Most likely, for someone in MH, it is a result of a 3:2 rotation...

@Blogzorz, great idea, been meaning to do exactly that.  Just need to do some bag organization to clear out more room....   bleh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several things can cause more steady shots than autos, but the most common answer is that many BM hunters are using a 3:2 macro (that becomes 1:1 with haste effects).  This means that every few autoshots, if your weapon is slow enough, you fit two steadys in there.</p>
<p>Also, it can be a sign of extreme clipping.  You pack your steadys so close together that you miss autos entirely.  </p>
<p>I have also gotten results like that sometimes when I have horrible lag spikes.  Most likely, for someone in MH, it is a result of a 3:2 rotation&#8230;</p>
<p>@Blogzorz, great idea, been meaning to do exactly that.  Just need to do some bag organization to clear out more room&#8230;.   bleh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nick S.</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2008/04/17/tier-5-bonus-cant-be-beat/#comment-21944</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>possible to have more steady shots than auto? easy. he starts his gun shooting with steady shot, and whatever he's hitting is either dying or being deselected before the auto shot goes off.

just a guess. happens to me wee 65 hunter alla time in instances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>possible to have more steady shots than auto? easy. he starts his gun shooting with steady shot, and whatever he&#8217;s hitting is either dying or being deselected before the auto shot goes off.</p>
<p>just a guess. happens to me wee 65 hunter alla time in instances.</p>
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		<title>By: HunterX</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2008/04/17/tier-5-bonus-cant-be-beat/#comment-21935</link>
		<dc:creator>HunterX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 05:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. A shot rotation macro is proven inferior for DPSing when you’re still at BRKs’ gear level and doing a 1:1 rotation. 


Like BRK says: It depends...

Lets take a look at this anonymous wws log (Rage Winterchill -  Custom Split because wws messed up with german combat logs):

http://wowwebstats.com/krlhiu1lsqtjg?s=6565,6957

Let us ignore Deimose cause his pet and some Druid shared the same name. 

So we are looking for Diones Stats:

Steady Shots - 123
Autoshots - 113

His gear is inferoir to BRK's gear and he is using a shot rotation macro. If all of the comments above about GCD and 1:1 macros are true, how is this even possible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. A shot rotation macro is proven inferior for DPSing when you’re still at BRKs’ gear level and doing a 1:1 rotation. </p>
<p>Like BRK says: It depends&#8230;</p>
<p>Lets take a look at this anonymous wws log (Rage Winterchill -  Custom Split because wws messed up with german combat logs):</p>
<p><a href="http://wowwebstats.com/krlhiu1lsqtjg?s=6565,6957" rel="nofollow">http://wowwebstats.com/krlhiu1lsqtjg?s=6565,6957</a></p>
<p>Let us ignore Deimose cause his pet and some Druid shared the same name. </p>
<p>So we are looking for Diones Stats:</p>
<p>Steady Shots - 123<br />
Autoshots - 113</p>
<p>His gear is inferoir to BRK&#8217;s gear and he is using a shot rotation macro. If all of the comments above about GCD and 1:1 macros are true, how is this even possible?</p>
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		<title>By: Alanor</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2008/04/17/tier-5-bonus-cant-be-beat/#comment-21933</link>
		<dc:creator>Alanor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BRK, 

I understand why you were lower on the Leo fight I was bringing it up because because someone was complaining that your overall DPS for the night should have been higher and I mentioned that the Leo fight was the one fight that brought down the average dps for the night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BRK, </p>
<p>I understand why you were lower on the Leo fight I was bringing it up because because someone was complaining that your overall DPS for the night should have been higher and I mentioned that the Leo fight was the one fight that brought down the average dps for the night.</p>
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		<title>By: Zball</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2008/04/17/tier-5-bonus-cant-be-beat/#comment-21918</link>
		<dc:creator>Zball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 00:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A correction to my above post, as I waited too long to try and edit it. The second- to- last sentence should read--

"It has nothing to do with stacking mp/5."

As the regen during casting is considered mana per 5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A correction to my above post, as I waited too long to try and edit it. The second- to- last sentence should read&#8211;</p>
<p>&#8220;It has nothing to do with stacking mp/5.&#8221;</p>
<p>As the regen during casting is considered mana per 5.</p>
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		<title>By: Zball</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2008/04/17/tier-5-bonus-cant-be-beat/#comment-21917</link>
		<dc:creator>Zball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nick
If that mage is Arcane/ anything, he probably picked up Arcane Meditation. That's 30% of your normal mana regen while casting. When combined with Mage Armor (another 30% mana regen while casting), Judgment of Wisdom, Prayer of Spirit and the new mana regen model, yes, spiking damage then recovering is definitely doable. It has nothing to do with mp/5. It has everything to do with Spirit and Intellect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nick<br />
If that mage is Arcane/ anything, he probably picked up Arcane Meditation. That&#8217;s 30% of your normal mana regen while casting. When combined with Mage Armor (another 30% mana regen while casting), Judgment of Wisdom, Prayer of Spirit and the new mana regen model, yes, spiking damage then recovering is definitely doable. It has nothing to do with mp/5. It has everything to do with Spirit and Intellect.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bigredkitty.net/2008/04/17/tier-5-bonus-cant-be-beat/#comment-21916</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@SSC:

No. A shot rotation macro is proven inferior for DPSing when you're still at BRKs' gear level and doing a 1:1 rotation. If you manually time your shots you are able to take advantage of the server-side queue by hitting your steady shot during the .5 sec auto shot cast, thus eliminating lag from the equation and making your rotation as tight as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@SSC:</p>
<p>No. A shot rotation macro is proven inferior for DPSing when you&#8217;re still at BRKs&#8217; gear level and doing a 1:1 rotation. If you manually time your shots you are able to take advantage of the server-side queue by hitting your steady shot during the .5 sec auto shot cast, thus eliminating lag from the equation and making your rotation as tight as possible.</p>
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