BRK Makes a Big @ss of Himself, Hunter Guide Movie
Unfortunately, we really laughed at the “WAAA” and thus left it in. We apologize to all mages, great and small. Mostly.
Chain Trapping 101:
1. Watch your cooldowns. Don’t let the pull start until you are ready to drop another trap in case the first is resisted.
2. Watch your positioning. Preplan where you’re going to trap and tell everybody else to stay away from your Trapping Zone.
3. Have a light-threat Pull Shot for questing and soloing, have a heavy-threat Pull Shot for instances and raids.
Light-Threat Pull Shot
/cast Arcane Shot(Rank 1)
/stopcasting
Heavy-Threat Pull Shot
/castsequence reset=5 Distracting Shot, Arcane Shot
/stopcasting
4. Watch your aggro. Your tank can Taunt the mob off you, but you’re still capable of re-pulling the mob if you don’t Feign Death after the Taunt.
5. Practice chain-trapping before you get in an instance. Do not use your guildies’ repair-gold as your own.
Download the 11.4MB movie here.
Penetratrix on 12 May 2008 at 7:39 pm #
I like showing up those who hate and distrust hunters on principal.
“We have no CC for this instance!”… you have me.
“How are we going to CC these 2 mobs?”… Ill multishot pull and double trap them.
“Hunters are the best!”… I know.
Forthus on 12 May 2008 at 8:18 pm #
Firstly i don’t have a hunter yet although i plan to roll one that being said.
As a tank i ran into a huge amount of “Huntards” who i actually had to teach to trap mobs it was a pain and somehow the hunter class attracts people that have no idea how to play.
But also has some of the best players too that kinda get a bad reputation because of the bad ones.
Kudos to BRK for helping Alleviate the condition known as huntardism.
And yes i made that up but i mean come on I’m totally pro enough to do that. Or at least i think i am…
NaturalChaos on 12 May 2008 at 8:57 pm #
Great video, you make it look so easy. Then again, it should be that easy… Kind of sad then that you’d even have to post about it at all.
Pike on 12 May 2008 at 11:26 pm #
One time me, a rogue, and a boomkin were all in a heroic group together and we were looking for a tank. We whispered one prospect who, upon learning we had a trap, a sap, and a hibernate (it was Underbog)… told us that because we were lacking a mage we didn’t have enough CC.
Yeeeeah.
Chain-trapping is seriously one of my favorite things to do though, and it’s a skill I rather pride myself on too– it makes me feel good when we do that big ol’ pull right after Attumen, for example, and trap is saved for last. I think it’s cause my guildies know how much I love trapping.
(That said, in my last Kara run, we had three priests and a survival hunter. I didn’t have to do any trapping and it was actually quite glorious cause our CC was ridiculously epic. And I just got to concentrate on MQoSRDPS. Mmm, mmm, good.)
Indi on 12 May 2008 at 11:54 pm #
Very well executed, and shows what to do when the tank decides to take the trap before the sap. Looked almost like one of my runs! Except I’m taller, and greener.
Doomilias on 13 May 2008 at 12:11 am #
hey there is me!!
Typhoonandrew on 13 May 2008 at 12:14 am #
Great vid, and a nice way to give advice that is easy to understand. Useful to not only the huntards, but also the non-hunter who would like to know more about what is possible, and also the new players.
kunukia on 13 May 2008 at 12:28 am #
I could not get the vid, no longer available?
I love chain trapping, I remember back in the day, before I could do it, and boy was I a useless piece of…Dwarf.
Oh, cool, clicked again, and got it!
Good one!
Brian on 13 May 2008 at 12:30 am #
If you’ve never done trapping before (and I know you’re out there) here is a very simple way to get started.
1. Find two mobs together
2. Drop a trap
3. Pet attack one
4. Shoot like normal until they are both together on your pet
5. Multishot - one will come straight for you and hit the trap
but mostly, just get out there and practice it. It will be strange at first.
Bellwether on 13 May 2008 at 1:40 am #
oh goodness but I giggled.
jumb on 13 May 2008 at 3:22 am #
Don’t apologize to the gnomes!
clivetortoise on 13 May 2008 at 3:56 am #
Great movie, as ever. One thing though, your early movies were very well narrated and now they seem to be getting more manic. Mrs BRK making you speed up so you can watch some B&W movie?
Euripedes on 13 May 2008 at 4:18 am #
/indignation
Apology accepted. Mostly.
Manekk on 13 May 2008 at 4:23 am #
I couldn’t watch that on I get a message saying “we’re sorry this video is no longer availible” same thing with everything from youtube anyone have a clue what i should do?
/Manekk
Paladyr on 13 May 2008 at 5:20 am #
I lol’d at the boomkin comment at the end:P
scathatch on 13 May 2008 at 7:18 am #
OMG I loved this, granted I’m surv not bm but I still get treated like i’m an inferior CC (newbs) I’ve been the only CC there before talk about active wish I could make a vidio of it but I think the narative would sound like an auctioneer:) and the when I’m doing it talk about no damage but …I LOVE IT.
PS. My CC bringz all the BOYZ to the yard
Felandra on 13 May 2008 at 7:37 am #
Lovely…. just lovely!
While I think your older movies might be better technically, I think this one is easier to use as training for those hunters who struggle with trapping.
I think I will link it to my clan’s forum.
paul on 13 May 2008 at 8:45 am #
Dust mop FTW! lol
Carwen on 13 May 2008 at 9:14 am #
Good advice and well explained.
to the OP on the excesive numbers of huntards . . .
It is so easy to solo as a hunter, but not all the skills you need for instancing (5-10 man) are learned while leveling.
I use to take my hunters to Dire Maul (back in the day) 4 hunters, and a healer. We would practice chain trapping, threat ping-pong, and kiting.
Being able to chain trap also means you have a group who trusts you, and knows that you can handle the job. NO tank likes to see a mob going runnng through the casters right after the he makes his pull. It is the sign of a good tank who will, at first, intercept your trap target cuz he thinks he has to.
And for the tanks out there who like to control things (which I use to have). I would to put a trap right on the MT, once he positioned himself. I gave him a heads up when the cool down is half way through, then he pulled . .and he walks backward a few steps. The first mob the tank hits (other than casters) will be the first into the trap. Viola, your tank just trapped a mob. I put a new trap down under the healer and start pewpewing.
Understanding game mechanics (simple ones) of the hunter, makes your job in instances easier.
Dave on 13 May 2008 at 9:31 am #
For the “heavy pull” shot, I’ve started throwing in a Concussive Shot a few yards before the mob hits the trap. This has two benefits: First, it slows extends the time for that mob to hit the trap, meaning that the trap will wear off later & the mob is out of commission longer. Second, if the trap is resisted, the mob is moving slowly and its easier to get a new trap in place.
Xanthelei on 13 May 2008 at 10:43 am #
I love the movie BRK. I too hate it when people think that traps aren’t real CC. It’s real CC, it’s just harder-to-master CC and (at least on our server) it seems to be slightly-broken CC. =/ I’m Survival-hybrid now (EW but no Readiness), so my traps are as good as ever, but as BM I get way too many trap resists and early breaks. Being now on dialup, that isn’t good for my repair bill!
Re:practicing chain trapping. Every time I go farm up Kibbler’s Bits, I chain trap a mob around the carrion bird hill in Terokkar. It’s fun, it’s easy, and it makes farming less tedious because you have to actually watch something. If you can clear the hill of everything, including the giant bird AND respawns, give yourself 50 Hunter Points - you can chain trap. (And yes, it is very possible even without any Survival reduction on trap cooldown time. I don’t even HAVE those talents myself.)
Raymond on 13 May 2008 at 10:53 am #
I have a level 56 hunter and I PUG a lot of 5-man instances, but it is hard not to become a huntard when the tank and off-tank go out of their way to break your trap.
Do you have a term for tank-tards?
saphia on 13 May 2008 at 11:01 am #
I found a great use for traps during a heroic instance the other day. Think it was Sethekk - it’s the one where the Arakoa dead guys can mind control people.
I would lay down a freezing trap and everyone but the tank would stand on top of it. As soon as someone got mind controlled, they’d be frozen in the trap. That gave us plenty of time to burn down the totem and get them un-mind controlled. People in the group loved it.
They kept asking me to do it over and over saying how cool it was that they weren’t responsible for killing group members when mc’d.
Elwynnia on 13 May 2008 at 11:08 am #
I also have concussive shot in my pull marco as part of the cast sequence- I don’t always use it, but I usually do. I feel like it can never hurt to give myself a bit more time on the trap CD.
Kuell on 13 May 2008 at 11:08 am #
I am going to make everyone in our guild watch this just to learn the importance on not standing near my traps. They are starting to see the importance of chain trapping, pulling techniques and misdirection in instances but on a trap sequence like this it can get a bit hectic and they definitely can start aggroing the mob that i’ve been trapping.
The other thing that gets me ticked off is waiting for my cooldown to be over just incase it hits the fan. i wish I could teach them patience
Galoheart on 13 May 2008 at 11:48 am #
As a Tank I would say a Hunter should be aware of what kind of Tank he or she is in a Instance with when your doing trapping.
If you know you have a Tank that does AoE and you know they will AoE and their is a Mob marked for Trapping as much as possible don’t trap or drop a trap close to the tank where you know it could possible get caught in the tank AoE. I’ve been in Instance with some good hunters that trap and can trap back to back and often they pull the mob in a different direction where the mob is trapped and could not possibly be broken by the tank until ready to be dealt with.
I was in Heroic UB a few days ago as the Tank. We had 2 Hunters in group and Trapping. One Hunter got his trap resisted three pulls in a row. I don’t know what kind of traps he had but maybe he needed improve traps or something like that if he will be doing lots of instances.
megan on 13 May 2008 at 12:32 pm #
Oh dear, BRK you are a keyboard turner!
GHOSTKID on 13 May 2008 at 12:43 pm #
Have you ever been in an instance where you chain-trapped your mob, all of the other mobs are dead, and the tank starts to head to the next pull? This is usually followed by you being subtle, of course…./P Trap.
I consider this quite a compliment. The tank is so used to Hunters not being able to keep the mob on ice that he assumed the trap broke, and the mob was already killed.
Usually at this point the tank is throwing all sorts of compliments my way (”Nice trapping, Davey Crockett!”) I just keep doing my job, and hope I don’t run into too much resist trouble.
saphia on 13 May 2008 at 1:01 pm #
@Ghostkid
lol yes, I’ve had it happen several times where the tank forgets about my trapped mob and starts to the next pull. Luckily, the tank is usually my husband (unless he’s playing his mage or priest) so I can tell him quickly before he gets any farther and embarrasses us both.
Oakshorn on 13 May 2008 at 1:10 pm #
Another fantastic BRK movie! The 5 man group I usually do instances with only has my traps and my wife’s Boomkin Cyclones for CC, so they’ve learned to love my traps especially since we’ve started heroics!
I have to say I’ve learned a LOT from your site THANK YOU!!! and please keep up the great work!
SAR on 13 May 2008 at 3:33 pm #
Another great movie! I’d love to see one however, where you have to handle a resisted trap or broken. When we do Moroes, I usually get to cc Baron Rafe. Sometimes he resists and then drops hammer of justice on me. Ouch!
BTW, I think you should have a link on tankspot.com, especially on #1! Thx!
Oomiss on 13 May 2008 at 11:15 pm #
I don’t know if this video and information was created due to a post I made on your forums concerning pulling mobs in instances, but I’m happy to watch another of your splendid videos as well as copy and paste your pulling macros.
Well done and thanks for all your dedication to the class. It’s very much appreciated.
Rigel & Voltaire on 14 May 2008 at 3:09 pm #
Thanks for the movie! The tip about starting the pull after the traps cooldown is up was especially appreciated. Its made a huge difference in being able to chain trap w/ no down time between traps. Thanks bunches!
explosif on 15 May 2008 at 12:42 am #
is this really educational to anyone?
set a trap. set another when available. brilliant!
Adrus/Redhunt on 15 May 2008 at 10:04 pm #
I’m good at chain trapping now if I could teach everyone else how to not break traps and tanks to not bring there mob all the way across the room and hit my second trap and stuff like that.
Walkere on 17 May 2008 at 12:29 pm #
Having played both a Mage and a Hunter at level 70, I have a much greater appreciation for Hunters that can chain trap. It may not be the most difficult thing in the game, but it does require a lot of awareness and multi-tasking.
That’s very unlike the Mage, where I simply spam Alt-4 - Sheep Focus. Perma-sheep done.
There is one thing you still need us Mages for, though. Free water. When there’s a table to be had, we’re everybody’s best friend.
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