Comments on: I’m Yer Shooter!

By: scathatch

scathatch — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:02:16 +0000

Sweet jesus nice FPS we’ve been doing MH for a month or so now have every thing down but the last boss and must say it’s the worst place I’ve been for FPS yet

By: Bravehawk

Bravehawk — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:00:41 +0000

We generally carry 2-4 mages and 2-4 locks in our raids, we just find that engaging the NPCs makes life easier. Our dps is not light by any means, we downed Archi last week after 7 Soul Charges if that’s any indicator and had a lock top 1 mil dmg on Illidan 2 weeks ago when we killed him. :oP

I’ve never had trouble kiting a mob past Jana and we run with 1 of 2 prot pallies who rotate on our single night clears in MH. I understand your thoughts, but we prefer kiting to get NPCs into the mix. We don’t need with our gear lvls but the practice helps keep the rust off, imo. I might also force any n00b hunter recruit to do it so we can see their skills…

By: Aukatos

Aukatos — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:57:44 +0000

Shout out to Shmilybug! Missing you on Azjol!

By: Esoth

Esoth — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:00:11 +0000

@Tragic/Bravehawk I’m saying that I think kiting is pretty much a waste with our raid composition (we normally have three or four mages and two warlocks, plus a prot paladin tanking most of it). The exception is when you get to the huge pulls on Azgalor trash in which I would rather our prot paladin did not get ganked instantly - I kite an abomb then, but it’s more to give the tank a break than to get the NPCs involved.

Now that’s all considering you have a prot paladin and a lot of aoe damage in the raid. If you are missing one or both of those (I haven’t tried it without either, fortunately), I could picture kiting being a much bigger deal. If our aoe were about 20 seconds slower, either because we were lacking aoers or because they were threat capped, I would probably have about 10-15 seconds of those NPCs assisting everyone, which may be nice…

By: MmGravy

MmGravy — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:46:22 +0000

Nice to see that you finally got that squad of dwarves to serve you BRK

By: Tragic

Tragic — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:35:36 +0000

Bravehawk not to argue but it makes it go slower no question. all your mages should be 3k higher on trash and locks 4-6k and a BM hunter around 1500 at that gear level. It is fun to kite but this is BC not molten core. Wouldn’t your time be better spent tanking a necro keeping em off healers and aoe? We always have 30 sec or more left before next wave. If i brought one to Just Jana they would be dead before she kills the kited mob and moves on to the rest of pak. Just a waiste of potential DPS and timed lost. I’m assuming you have little or weak AOE in which case I suppose you have no other joice.

By: Vuur

Vuur — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:03:18 +0000

BRK - do you have a list of all the addons you are using in that screen shot? I like your buttons and the way the chat was split the most.
I know omen - i’m liking more of the GUI options you have going on there

By: Bravehawk

Bravehawk — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:51:37 +0000

And for the Omen users, our guild ran blind for about 2 weeks and it got dicey at times. The reason people don’t show up is b/c either your raid leaders or maybe MT is not compatible and needs to update. Some of us had to delete our WTF folders (create a backup first to protect macros, etc) to wipe out the addon settings but we all use Omen now.

By: Bravehawk

Bravehawk — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:47:38 +0000

Anonymous, you should L2 read, Esoth agrees with me, just doesn’t think Crypt Fiends are worthy of kiting (I’ve done it, it’s fun, just kick AotC off before that range atk hits.) You need the NPCs all engaged to speed up clearing trash. You want to be far enough ahead so that everyone can eat/drink before the next wave gets there. Or in the event of an unlucky daze and a hunter dying. ROFL!! The more you engage the NPCs the easier the trash. We carry at most 4 shaman a raid and our elemental shaman is put to better use with the casters. Let the hunters do their job b/c we are born & bred for kiting…makes life easier for all.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:54:21 +0000

Esoth is totally right no need to kite a single mob just aoe at base of hill, kiting will take longer overall. If your BM you are highest single target DPS why waiste that running if you ensist on kiting use a shaman his DPS will not be missed.