Puppies
“Dear BRK, what is your opinion on wolfs as a pet. Patrick.”
We think wolves are neat, pretty, fluffy, and all-around decent pets. If you’re a min-max’er, i.e. you’ll do anything and everything to buff yourself to own the top of the damage meter, you won’t be choosing one, though.
What’s Great About Wolves
1. They are the most realistic pet in the game. You know someone who owns a dog. You seen dogs attack. You’ve seen dogs attack on command. People actually hunt with dogs. Our own 100lb fluffy puppy, Quattro, would make a great hunter-pet… if he actually had a malevolent bone in his body and didn’t want to lick everybody who comes in the door.
2. Good diet: meat. They don’t eat bread, but they also aren’t restricted to mushrooms or artichokes or something else silly.
3. Good health, good armor, average base-DPS. There’s something sad about a hunter coming to a raid with a pet that does less-than-average base-DPS. With a wolf, at least you’re not in that group.
4. Lots of choices of skins. Variety, thy name is Cat. It’s closest cousin is the wolf. No, we cannot get the spirit wolf any longer, but there’s a long list of pretty wolves available for taming, from your first pet to level sixty-seven.
5. Furious Howl. If you are put in a melee-DPS group, your wolf’s Furious Howl will boost their damage every ten seconds. It’s a party-buff, and the only one a hunter’s pet can learn.
What Stinks About Wolves
1. The most popular wolf is easily attainable. Ironjaw is gorgeous. In our opinion, he’s one of the best-looking pets in the game, regardless of class. But if you have someone in your guild with a wolf, he probably has him already. If you don’t want a cat because “everybody has one”, watch out for Ironjaw; you’ll see lots of them.
2. Low-DPS, regardless of what Petopia says. Furious Howl takes 60 Focus to cast, so your pet can’t be casting any other spells in between Furious Howl-cooldowns. This means no Growl, Bite, etc. To get the most bang out of your wolf-buck, his personal DPS must suffer. He may be an average-DPS pet, but his lack of a Focus-drain will retard his total damage significantly.
3. There are no level-70 wolves available. If you’re a level-capped hunter and want to try a wolf, you’ll have to get a level 67 wolf, because that’s as high as they come. Nobody likes pet-leveling.
4a. Furious Howl’s limited range. Let’s say you’re put in an AoE group to amplifier their DPS. You and the squishie armada stand way back and bomb away. Your wolf charges in and starts casting Furious Howl. Since your party is 30 yards away from the wolf, nobody will benefit from the 15-yard range-limit of Furious Howl. To guarantee effectiveness, your wolf needs to be in a melee-DPS group.
4b. Furious Howl in PvP is even worse than in PvE. In battlegrounds, your party can be miles away. In arenas, you either play a Crush-DPS style or Mana-Drain style. A wolf is beneficial in neither.
5. They yip. Cats “roar” into battle. Wolves “yip”. That’s cr@p on toast, Blizz. Sheesh.
Just to head off an avalanche of “what about X as a pet” emails, let’s cut to the quick. There are only four viable min-max raiding pets: cats, ravagers, wind serpents, and raptors. That’s it, that’s all. Fineto.



Mike on 05 Jul 2008 at 11:13 am #
Normally i would agree to your list, but i do also like to bring my boar with me on new and untried bosses. It does a little damage, gives the +3% damage buff and survives while he is not on the priority list of the healers … For me that is a “fire and forget” kind of pet .. and surely, once a boss is known, the healers know their ways around the boss, then i bring out the ravager
Mike
kunukia on 05 Jul 2008 at 11:21 am #
All that said…I adore wolves. I am a dog person who has had several ‘wolf-like’ dogs, such as shepherds, border collies and husky crosses. The animation of the regular (not the worg) wolf running towards you is so lifelike, with the ears laid back. That is what a happy dog runs like. At least half of my hunters have a wolf that they use farming and in five-man questing/instances.
In a raid I will min-max, the rest of the time, it is the happy-making pretty pixels…
Oh, and some dogs do yip when going into battle, I have worked with trained attack dogs, back in the day.
Peloquin on 05 Jul 2008 at 11:46 am #
My ghost puppy yips backwards. So I guess he piys?
All fair points though, and this is coming from someone who would love to take his wolf everywhere.
I just hope that the new talent trees, coupled with Bite being turned into a focus dump will make Wolves a force to be reckoned wit in WotLK.
Bu as a counterpoint to 5. Wolves may yip in battle, but when standing by their Hunter, they howl. Much, MUCH cooler than shaking their slobbering jowls and yawning.
Feist on 05 Jul 2008 at 12:03 pm #
Don’t forget birds! For pure DPS a min-maxing beastmaster should skip them sure but screech is absolutely worth its benefits to the tank on hard hitting progression content. A different kind of min-maxing, but a very valuable one.
Haylie on 05 Jul 2008 at 2:12 pm #
Cats. Always. Cats.
Znodis on 05 Jul 2008 at 2:59 pm #
If anyone is wondering about pets beyond raiding (and I agree with BRK’s 4), I have been doing research. Only 4 families left to go.
http://themystichunter.wordpress.com/guide-2-pet-family-review/
It will be getting more organized than a single list soon. I promise.
Bristinie on 05 Jul 2008 at 3:15 pm #
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Peloquin on 05 Jul 2008 at 4:26 pm #
You can actually narrow it down to two, as Gore > Claw for focus dump damage so Ravager > Cat+Raptor The difference isn’t exactly huge, but we are talking min-maxing here.
The Wild One on 05 Jul 2008 at 4:41 pm #
Never understood the draw of wolves, really.
I’m not a dog person, either, so that may have something to do with it.
gnomeaggedon on 05 Jul 2008 at 4:46 pm #
My first pet for my long forgotten Tauren Hunter was a wolf.. loved it as a soloing companion, and I kept going back to it.. it just seemed to have the right combination of everything… especially scruffy looks.
Mind you that was a long time ago…
Eldorn on 05 Jul 2008 at 5:07 pm #
and maybe you’ve forgotten the ugly Scorpids for PvP gotta love that sting
Grainger on 05 Jul 2008 at 9:45 pm #
I always wanted one of the tracking hounds from SM, but I just couldn’t see using a dog instead of a cat.
Gonna grab an owl after next level to co-level with my Humar, see how I like that until I can get the dire raven. Hopefully they make nice soloing pets.
kunukia on 05 Jul 2008 at 10:31 pm #
The tracking hounds are hyenas.
Grainger on 05 Jul 2008 at 11:20 pm #
hyenas don’t count as the same class as wolves? Sorry if I’m ignorant on this.
I guess I put all dogs in the same category.
kunukia on 05 Jul 2008 at 11:25 pm #
Nah, hyena is a separate family. Not many people have them, because they have no family special ability yet. I am sure they will get something under the new system.
Cinderwolf on 06 Jul 2008 at 12:43 am #
Every Hunter I roll has a wolf. Cinder, my 70 Huntard, has a loyal wolf companion and has since she was level 10. The wolf that has traveled with her, and will always remain, is a Ghostpaw Alpha from Ashenvale. The silver-white skin can only be attained at level 28 at the highest, and therefore it is a very rare find at level 70.
I’ve always been highly disappointed with the fact my wolf is not a viable raiding companion, and I absolutely refuse to take a cat. It isn’t that I don’t like them, I just don’t think they fit my character and *everyone* has them. Ravagers? Yuck! I would never own one, much less use one with any kind of regularity.
This leaves me with.. raptor. They aren’t bad, and I raid with a black-and-blue from BEM. But, the day Wrath lands.. This Hunter is going to be DPSing with a wolf. And even if they still don’t quite compete with cats/ravagers/raptors.. As long as Blizzard makes them more viable than they are now with Bite being as crap as it is, and Furious Howl being ridiculously expensive energy-wise, I don’t care.
PS. Blizzard needs to make Furious Howl sound like a howl, rather than a.. bark. And as for the yip, a growl would be much more appropriate.
Cinder & Tyvaer
Marathonian on 06 Jul 2008 at 1:25 am #
I used to use run my hunter with Lupos,back when he did shadow damage.Man those were the days.Stupid pet normalization.
Anyway,the ancient Egyptians took their cats on hunting excursions, especially in the marshes where cats may have been trained to retrieve fowl and fish.
Now if I could just get my lazy,fat @ssed cat to do that….
StupudHunter on 06 Jul 2008 at 11:28 am #
Until recently, I have been using cats almost exclusively for leveling. They are great, dont get in the way, and ez to maintain. However, I picked up an Owl just b/c I liked the model. Well, I must say for LEVELING, I think they are the way to go. Even going FULL-OUT with my threat way above 130% of my pets, I dont pull aggro. Let me stress, thats solo / leveling. Dont know how good it would be in an instance…
Anise on 06 Jul 2008 at 1:42 pm #
As someone who tanks often, please no birds or bats. I like to hear the game. Birds and bats mean I shut my sound off due to the constant screech spam. It even annoyed me while playing my hunter…
kunukia on 06 Jul 2008 at 3:02 pm #
Yah, a couple of my hunters have flyers, but I only solo with them, most tanks hate them. Carrion birds are good to solo with, and easy to feed. But I like the bat flying animation better.
Vyraal on 06 Jul 2008 at 5:55 pm #
Best pet while grinding is a Boar, hands down. Boar’s Charge is such a valuable tool, plus the damn thing eats just about anything and almost never dies.
Stale on 06 Jul 2008 at 9:19 pm #
I love my wolf at 49 but I know it wont be raid viable… However in WotLK with shouts and totems becoming raid buffs rather then party buffs, you would think howl would be too… so with tanks, melee and hunters all getting the buff, it would be 2k damage every 10 seconds would be leetsauce.
Therefore I plan to have a 70/80 wolf and then probably get a cat cause of the DPS if I get to raid at 70 before Wrath of the Bitch King.
joeboy on 06 Jul 2008 at 11:51 pm #
I had the beautiful opportunity of leveling with LeChon (Roast Pig in my native tongue, Filipino) a piggy from RFK.
Very rare in the 70’s, nice armour, stam and has boar charge and gore as the focus dump.
I normally use him on the netherwing dailies and basic farming. On Raids, though, I prefer my bangalash cat. Faster attacks, claw as focus dump, greater chance to get Ferocious Inspiration to benefit the raid party that I am in.
mammaltoe on 07 Jul 2008 at 2:40 am #
Did he just say leetsauce?
Asara on 07 Jul 2008 at 9:31 am #
I wanted to see for myself the difference between raiding with a wolf vs. a cat, so I took my blue beauty Leshya along the last time we ran Gruul’s. I ended a full 100 dps behind the other two BM hunters in my raid, who both had the Blackwind kitty. Reason enough for me to bring my GM kitty from now on, that’s for sure!
Krystofar on 07 Jul 2008 at 3:56 pm #
I read the post then I read the comments desperately looking for what I consider to be the wolf’s best trait. Little tank! Yes, I’m sure your bear or your boar is a good tank too, but damn my wolf is awesome. I have a cat for BG’s and a scorpid for arena, but I would never raid without my wolf. I’ve had Skippy since he was a puppy in Dun’morogh. I absolutely agree that DPS is very low compared to other pets, but he has saved so many lives by pulling aggro off healers, off-tanking, or filling in for downed main tanks. With good heals, I have run many instances with Skippy as the MAIN tank. His 7600 health and almost 13,000 armor make it easy. Regular Blood Furnace, Mana Tombs – no problem! My daughter, a resto-druid (http://healingtree.wordpress.com) and I, two-manned Ramparts with the pup taking all the punishment. Galvagar and Drek’thar have many many bite marks from my puppy-tank.
I love my wolf.
Krystofar n’ Skippy
p.s. BRK, I have a question! Why does my wolf hold aggro so much better than my cat? Is armor an attribute in the calculation?
BM on 08 Jul 2008 at 11:14 am #
I leveled with my ravager since lvl 16 and love it but managed to pick up a boar and the boar makes a great leveling pet.
Ravagers > cats and raptors for the sheer fact of gore. The health and armor difference in the 3 classes is minimal at that.
I don’t see the allure to wolves unless your raid has the melee dp s to couple with the furious howl, and even then it could be a situational call of the raid leader to have the hunter bring his wolf to help boost their dps. I could see it being more beneficial for an SV hunter to have a wolf than a max dps BM hunter.
1 sv hunter with a wolf + 1 expose weakness rogue = some decent damage for the melee dps group. Toss a druid’s fairie fire in there and now we are rocking.
just my honest opinion.
The Lords Breed on 10 Jul 2008 at 1:33 pm #
One of our raid leaders and I were actually taking about wolves last night, and he/we came up for a WotLK suggestion for wolves.
Play Dead.
Does the exact same thing as Feign Death, but can only be used by wolves, since they are the more dog like creatures.
Ichthus on 14 Jul 2008 at 3:48 pm #
I’m the ‘non-standard’ hunter in our guild. I raid with an owl or wolf, because while dps is nice, buffs and debuffs are also nice. Unfortunately, buffs and debuffs don’t pay the bills and due to the current high end content and my lower end gear, I’m likely going to be swapping out for something a little more standard. Damn you blizzard.