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Edit: Of course, you might have to go play here, too, so don’t put too much credence into either of these.
But they are fun. (We prefer WarTool’s talents, BTW).
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I’m playing around with this, putting off sleep, and I decide to put together a beast master build, and I get to the bottom of the tree.
JAW. DROP. WHAT THE.
Two pets. You have got to be kidding me.
I do not believe it. That would be so psychotically unbelievably over-the-top, that cannot really be in the alpha build of this game. If it is, it will be nerfed to all hell before retail. I’m not even that cynical, but there is just No Effing Way.
… Or is there? Warlocks are getting to turn into demons, warriors are getting to use two-handers in one hand. Would two hunter pets really be all that Out There?
Nope, this is hunter’s talent tree:
http://www.mmo-champion.com/talent/?hunter
ya the moment i saw no crossbow specialization i went wtf this is fake. Damn u BRK. I so wanted 2 pets
….I looked at MM and SV first…saving BM for last. I was thinking about trying out MM or SV….but then I saw. Two pets. I must be dreaming. This must be fake. And even if its not, people will complain about it being so overpowered that blizz will have to nerf it…right? I hope not. Best talent. Ever.
Two Pets? Too good to be true.
http://war-tools.com/t48164.html?b=9512c20052501224310052125100505201205zt
41/20 Please. Two pets? I’ll take that over literally any other talent in any other tree, short of Lethal and Mortal Shots.
Look at Bow Specialization. It’s for both Bows and Crossbows.
You are missing the big question here. Which 2 pets would be best in tandem?
For the love of god if you know which is the real tree please please tell us!!! lol
After seing the 2 pet tree I’ll be thoroughly disappointed if its the other one…./cry
LOL good one BRK.
I wonder if you got a wolf and a cat pet, would they spend more time fighting each other than the mobs?
Valdesta
WoWGrrl’s player blog
HMMM, these differ from what whas posted on MMO champion this morning. http://www.mmo-champion.com/talent/?hunter
I was expecting it to be the wowtools one as it seems to have stayed similar with bits added on at the end rather than the 2nd tree where alot of the basic of tree has been changed and added to it.
Fingers cross for Two Pets! =D
But be prepared for even more people to complain even louder that we are “broken” or “easy to play” with our extra pet if we get it.
Bugg
If we dont get a second pet in for our last talent.. can you say NERF.
I think honestly, we will not get 2 pets…
Sure… you can tame exotic pets.. But WTF, I want 2 pets.
And if you play with the different trees. You will notice that the points do not add up correctly there is a bit of unbalance there.
Anyways… I predict us hunters get nerfed out of the box….
Sorry no 2 pets.
latest info we got no hunter talents out yet
http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/07/18/wrath-beta-patch-notes-hunter/
unless BRK got inside information
I still keep fingers crossed for 2 pets
I want two pets!!!!!!!!!!
Just a heads up – check the Beta patch notes on MMO-Champion, look at the Hunter change to Master Tactician, and then look at the two trees.
The WarTools one has the old value of 6%. The MMO-Champion has the new value of 10%, which is stated in the patch notes.
Sorry to multi-shot your collective hunter-bubbles, but the WarTools one is bogus. No dual hunter pet-age…
But everything on MMO-Champion’s seems to be accurate, and full of awesome possibility!
Exotic pets?
I guess in the expansion there will be pets on BM hunters can tame then… hmmmm, good idea really.
Exotic pets = we better have more stable slots….
I really do not think that an exotic pet really is beneficial to the Hunter..
O’wait.. maybe we can tame un-tameables and they will have special skills.. and then we will all run around with the same ol’e yetti or something.
What they should do is say — Duel Pets = 71 point talent.
Would you do it then? i would…
But I agree, no duel pets…
I practically screamed in delight when I saw the two pent talent.
And then I saw the other tree, and read the comments here, and now I want to cry.
;_;
I have been crying for this type of shot and now I am pissed that it is in the Surv build all the way at the bottom.
Explosive Shot
Rank 1
You fire an explosive charge into the target, dealing [RAP * 0.2 + 345]-[RAP * 0.2 + 415] Fire damage every second for 2 sec to all enemies within 5 yards of the target.
Ever since those pesky Blood Elves in Netherstorm would shot you with an immolation shot I wanted one to match. Now I have to decide if I want to go Surv or stay MM and be a true clothy killer with my new ignore armor talent and bonuses to my shots.
CRY, it’s ok, I did. But really… the extra benefits in the BM tree are worthless.. unless you stack AOH now..
So I am already playing with a 41/30 build. Maybe even the 41/20/10
Who knows… where are theory crafters when you need them.
What a waiste of a poste and our time BRK MMO ftw
REMOVE the War-Tools one please, its just fake. The other is the current talent tree on the beta, it will probably change abit but is the current build.
PS: I want two pets also, but unlikely to ever happen.
hey BRK MMO also has other info like a new gun for ya.
http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/wotlk/ingameshots/loot/gun_furyoftheragingdragon.jpg
I am sorry but that has awesome written all over it.
It is not as powerful as the crossbow but at least you can downgrade a little for a better looking weapon than that circus fan of a crossbow.
here is the correct live beta talent tree:
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=c
That gun is 3.1 speed and a piece of junk and is a HUGE downgrade from CORS but does look cool
Mend pet is now channeled according to MMO Champion.
Exotic Pet Handler
When your exotic pet scores a critical hit there is a 10% chance that a random stables pet will be summoned and assist your pet for the next 30 seconds. All pet skills for the summoned pet do not apply or can not be stacked.
@ Pie
So they are nerfing mend pet?.. returning it to channeled again?
THAT REALLY SUCKS
With the other pet nerfage in previous patches, we NEED that cast-and-forget mend.
This is a HUGE nerf just to slow us down. crap.
Farming on a hunter will be much suckier.
If they do this kind of stuff to us while giving us new toys, I just may really quit this time. Either that or go glass cannon and screw the pet. If I can’t heal mid-fight, then the pet is gonna die.
@Pie:
Where are you seeing that? I can’t find anything that says that’s been changed.
http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?page=620
/cry (mourns over body of dead pet)
They are taking away one of the best changes they gave us in recent times. What’s next?.. give us a dead-zone agian?..
/stomp
Huh.
I wonder…I hopped over to wowhead to see what they had for that, and they have it as channeled also on their WotLK site.
Then again, they also have it as channeled on the regular, current site as well.
Curious.
So our farming efficiency is going down the tubes, and our DPS in raids will go down because we’ll need to take 15 sec out of a fight to heal our pets?..
yeah, I’m emo.. these things tick me off
But this is a huge BM nerf. We rely on our pets, and they are getting hammered again. Not only will the new pet talents restrict what we can do with them, forcing them to be specialized, but the are making it clear pets should die faster in pvp.
Sure they make more pet famiies “viable”. You’ll be forced to pick up a tanking pet if you need that. Your cat/ravager won’t be able to do it at all.
Also note that pets can no longer have bite+claw, you’ll only get one (which may or may not be a good thing, but you have no choice now).
I don’t really care what the real BM 51-point talent is. They are taking away the core of our class. The ability to have our pet hold aggro while we dps. Pet can’t hold aggro if it’s dead, and if we stop to heal, our dps goes down.
Back to farming one or two mobs at a time instead of 5-6 with mend-pet ticking away.
All hail the new MM overlords.
@Tchann
Is it currently listed as channeled on our tooltip?..
Could it be I’m emo over a poorly worded tooltip?.. (might not be the first time)
Because the current is “channeled” in a way, but it’s not channeled like other spells. It’s cast-and forget channel, really a HoT.
Anyone get a Beta invite that can verify what is going on?
@Fearstalker:
That’s exactly what I’m wondering, too. Unfortunately, I’m at work and can’t check ingame at the moment. It seems really weird that Blizz would make this change, so I’m skeptical for the time being.
Mend Pet in-game tooltip says Instant Cast.
Mend Pet on Thottbot and WoWHead both say Channeled.
It’s an error of words, methinks.
@ Pike
I sure hope so…
That’s for the “current” talents on WoWHead and Thottbot? maybe never updated?..
Wees neeeds a person on beta….
Well, on the link Pie sent, it says “channeled” for all the < level 70 mend pet talents, so perhaps the “channeled” is not true. Plus, there is no difference between Aspect of the Wild ranks 3 and 4 (both 30 yard range, +70 nature resist).
what almost makes me think is, what version of TBC did they use to make WoLK. They did the same thing for TBC where they used 1.9 or something to make it and it still had all the bugs there were patched in normal wow with version 2.0 and such. I have a feeling they did the same thing here, but I forget wasn’t 2.0 the patch that changed Mend Pet to a HoT instead of channeled?
Patch 2.1.0, actually.
Sorry BRK,
The MMO-Champion tree also agrees with the WotLKwiki, Wartools had a little wishful thinking going on.
2 pets would have been awesome, but I do like the idea of “exotic pets” this means that Beastmasters will get to tame pets that MMs and SVs wont. Neener-Neener
TWO PETS! CASTING WHILE MOVING! A NET THAT MAKES YOU BLEED!
But who really really knows these things? ITS all supposed BETA?
BRK use your f-damn strings and get us the info…
So for the Mend Pet Channeling thing, its not Channeled still. What is Channeled is the new Lick Pet, which has the hunters pet channel not the hunter (I believe).
Also I am kinda disappointed that it isnt 2 pets >.> would have been awesome…but exotic pets might be nice still :S
Given WoWhead has had Mend Pet as “channeled” for over a year after the change to instant-cast, and MMO Champion is using WoWhead ability links, I’m willing to bet that’s not an actual change but typo propagation.
That, and, you know, it doesn’t say “Mend Pet is once again a channeled ability” in the patch notes.
For crying out loud, people, calm down. The beta’s been open for, what, a day? Less than? Some people are still downloading the client. There’s no reason to wail about nerfs a day into the beta.
It seems to me the WotlkWiki has more of the talents at the beginning of the trees changed which means that they would need to refund us our talent points with such a drastic change at the base of the tree. War Tools on the other hand only sees major changes on the top of the trees which seems like they would be the natural progression of things, but those talents do seem outlandish.
This just in:
The sky is falling!
I didn’t mean to cause a crisis, just thought it was interesting. For me, I don’t look at stuff like this to be written in stone. The first BETA patch notes are not likely to be exactly as it will be when they drop the Wrath expac.
yeah, I get emo over things on occasion.. but it would be a huge change for certain playstyles.
so, anyone got their beta invite yet?…
What is an ‘exotic’ pet? And will they be useful, or just pretty, they bloody better be useful, considering the other two 51 point talents…
I understand. XD It’s easy to get excited about it; I didn’t mean to come off as condescending, just crying for sanity, since people hyperventilating over “HUEG HUNTAR NERF, HUEG LIEK XBOX” makes me sad when there’s all kinds of new things to be thrilled over.
Also, Exotic pets are the blood elves in a guild on my realm. :U
Unfortunately there’s only seventeen or eighteen of them. First come, first serve! I’ve already called the 51 paladin.
http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Feathermoon&n=Exotic+Pets&p=1
Maybe we’ll be able to tame gnomes….
but otherwise, the exotic pets are the sporebats and things like that. All the pets will have bite or claw (not both) and other specific talents, and will use ONE of the three trees.
I’m looking forward to a turtle for tanking…
@Fearstalker:
Sporebats as exotic pets? That doesn’t quite make sense, since they’re already tameable. Are they going to take pets away from hunters who already have them and aren’t specced for them, or grandfather in a pet only tameable by a talent?
I’m sure for the exotic pets they are going either introduce brand new pets or have “exotic” models of ones already available with better stats and possibly better skills.
Exotic pets are Lions and Tigers and Bears…oh wait.
The respeccing of pets is gonna be nuts.
They are adding a mechanic that will allow us to train low-level pets, or rather dumping the whole pet level + loyalty system…
One think for sure, don’t go out and spend any time leveling a low -level pet, cause it’s all gonna change…
I think everyone was so keen on the 51talent (2PETS!) that no one talked about the thing that BM pvp types wanted..
11pt Scatter Shot
/boggle
I want!
anyways.. doesn’t look like that’s the tree that’s going to make it.. oh but I wish it were
=/
here’s hoping…
/fingerscrossed
On an unrelated note: BEAR TRAP!
Place a bear trap that locks onto the first enemy that approaches, rooting them and causing [RAP * 0.1 + 1575] Bleed damage over 10 sec. Damage caused may interrupt the effect. Trap will exist for 1 min. Only one trap can be active at a time.
100 Mana, Instant cast, 30 sec cooldown
1300RAP(surely we can all swing that, eh?) -> 3000pt 10sec bleed +root -> even more lol’ing at rogues
@Rua
You got the math wrong. [RAP * 0.1 + 1575] Even if you had 3000 RAP (I’m that will be easily doable in WotLK) 3000 * 0.1 = 300. 300 + 1575 = 1875. So, 1875 over 10sec. It is a pretty cool trap…esp. for PvP.
People are actually IN the beta now, go look at Megatf’s posts on the official WoW hunter forums. He can tell you or you can read that the mmo-pro trees are the accurate ones (at least that is the way I read it).
BM tree GET TO BE AN ARENA SPEC!!!!!!
WOOT WOOT!!!!
!!NEW PET TALENT TREES!!:
http://www.maniasarcania.com/2008/07/18/wotlk-pet-talent-trees/
I can’t wait to find out even more info about “exotic” pets. There is a little bit…this is a blue post from the WoW forums.
“We’re still working on implementing this particular talent. The talent will allow you to train a different “class” of pets which we’re calling “exotic” right now. Only hunters with this talent will be able to train those pets. They won’t necessarily be “stronger” (though will all have unique abilities that you can only get from exotic pets), the extra power you should get from the talent will be from the additional pet skill points (pet talent points).
Devilsaur anyone?”
/excited
Argh I did a X*1.1 instead of *0.1
>.>
yay head math
still excited a ton ^_^
So you’re saying that neither one of these is an official leak, a couple of people just conjectured based on the icons?
http://war-tools.com/t48164.html?b=9552f5150120531c52125130250201205zt
2 pets. I almost wept for joy. But it may not be. Well, I can wait and see on that.