And That’s a One Shot

BRK on 21 Jul 2008

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23 Responses to “And That’s a One Shot”

1. Moka on 21 Jul 2008 at 11:15 pm #

   gratz on the kill!!
   and i hope u get the t6 the next time u down az

2. dabbler on 22 Jul 2008 at 1:58 am #

   gratz!

   btw, where is wws screenie with you as top dmg dealer? :p

3. Calthorin on 22 Jul 2008 at 2:29 am #

   Gratz BRK! I just joined a new guild and was around for my second kill of Azgalor this week and the guilds 4th. I lucked out and got both the T6 gloves and the leggings off him for the minimum DKP! Sometimes its a good thing when alot of normal raiders are out of town for us new guildies! XD

4. Prathi on 22 Jul 2008 at 2:44 am #

   Gratz! My guild did the same thing on Sunday. Just walked up, set up a place for the locks to ’stone doomguard incubators, and split ranged into a couple locations. Down he went. A couple people had to get some sleep then, but we went and pulled Archi just to see him.

   “btw, where is wws screenie with you as top dmg dealer? :p”

   A lot of that depends on luck. I was the first one to get doomed on Az, so poof, all my buffs were gone pretty instantly. And my kitty died to RoF about half way through.

5. dabbler on 22 Jul 2008 at 3:20 am #

   tell me about luck.. on my guilds last kill of him, I run into cleave when getting out of fire

6. Walden on 22 Jul 2008 at 3:52 am #

   There’s a question I always wanted to ask you hidden in that screenshot - why don’t you do IAotH?

   For me (just finishing T4 content, arsenal link above) it clearly improves my dps, but i’ve always wondered “if BRK doesn’t use the talent, can it be right?”

7. GimmeABreak on 22 Jul 2008 at 4:13 am #

   @ Walden: if they have a survival hunter along, that guy probably has IAotH and keeps it up. He’ll be the guy keeping up that and scorpid on fights that need that one.

8. Gleslen on 22 Jul 2008 at 5:34 am #

   congrats BRK!

9. Walden on 22 Jul 2008 at 5:54 am #

   @GimmeABreak: That would be improved hunter’s mark, no?

   Improved aspekt of the hawk only affects the hunter who has the talent, I think. (But excuse me if I just misunderstood you, english is not my first language.)

   And I completely forgot: Grats BRK!

10. kunukia on 22 Jul 2008 at 6:21 am #

    Woot! Grats AC!!

11. Bristle on 22 Jul 2008 at 8:49 am #

    Yes, I had some similar questions as well. No IAotH in favor of endurance training? : (

    Efficiency over IHM? : (

    What my guildies and I have always done is make sure the BM hunter(s) roll with at least one IHM that way the survival hunter can take efficiency since his mana issues will be greater than that of BM. And IAotH is one of the chief reasons to spec BM in the first place!

    That being said, once you start hitting Mount Hyjal content.. many of the fights aren’t you’re typical tank ‘n spank so I suppose any hunters decision of taking efficiency is probably a fair choice over the long haul. Anyway, I’ve not yet had the pleasure of gloating over Azgalors’ freshly slayed carcass, so grats to AC on a kill will executed!

12. Cynra on 22 Jul 2008 at 8:58 am #

    Congratulations! My guild managed to do the same thing this past Friday, ending our second night in Mount Hyjal by wiping on Archimonde. Fun times!

    Walden: You’re absolutely correct, sir. Improved Aspect of the Hawk has a chance to increase ranged haste by up to 15%. It also stacks with Rapid Fire, which is yummy. GimmeABreak was probably thinking of Improved Hunter’s Mark.

    I’ve found that I use Aspect of the Hawk less as I progress through Tier 6 content. Even downing potions at every cooldown, I often find myself at the dregs of my mana, requiring me to slip into Aspect of the Viper to reclaim mana. My raid usually doesn’t toss a Shadow priest or shaman into our group, which means we rely heavily on potions and Aspect of the Viper to sustain DPS when I’d much rather be in Aspect of the Hawk. So, in the case where a hunter doesn’t have the benefit of those external mana sources, Improved Aspect of the Hawk is of minimal benefit.

    At least the somewhat recent changes to Aspect of the Viper make it favorable to use it when you get lower on mana than to use it all of the time. As a result, I keep Hawk up until I hit a sufficiently low amount of mana and then switch to Viper. I’ve been considering dropping it in favor of buffing the bird, but I’m still undecided.

    Improved Aspect of the Hawk is only beneficial if you’re going to stay in it. And while it is substantial DPS during extended fights, I think the numbers work out where the sustained DPS tends to be more damage than with Hawk and no mana.

13. Alaw on 22 Jul 2008 at 9:05 am #

    Gratz BRK.

    If youre BM with efficiency… and still struggling to keep mana in an 8-10 minute boss fight… Lrn2Felmana. And learn it good.

    Uptime with your AotH on is a significant dps increase over viper.

    As an aside: if, in Hyjal, you find you still need Viper… pick up a bunch of the Elixir of Demonslaying pots. They last 5 minutes but increase your RAP against Demons by 265 — which augments the Flask + AotH combo if you’re rocking Viper for the long haul. Those elixirs will work against all bosses except for the first… Mr. Rage Winterjoke… I mean… Rage Winterloot…

14. WB on 22 Jul 2008 at 9:45 am #

    But the issue with IAotH is not whether you are in Hawk or Viper. The issue is whether you take IAotH over Endurance Training, right?

    You’re going to be in Hawk for at least part of the fight, so having the proc will always be a DPS boost. It may not proc every time it could because you’ve switched to Viper, but it’s still a boost.

    The question becomes does 10% more health on your pet keep the pet alive longer, such that it boosts your DPS more than the IAotH proc does.

    I don’t know the answer to that as I don’t raid on my hunter. But that seems to be the bigger question - where to spend the talent points for increased DPS.

15. Sempai on 22 Jul 2008 at 9:58 am #

    If you need endurance training to keep your pet alive you fail at a hunter, period.

    BM go effeciency for max DPS, survival goes IHM b/c he/she is a support roll. BM should be chain chugging haste pots on just about every boss encounter except a few (where mana drains are happening). IF your raid fails to keep wisdom judged on a boss (ret paladin or not), your guild fails, period.

16. Baelor on 22 Jul 2008 at 10:09 am #

    Grats BRK
    GL on Archie. FUN ass fight but it can be incredibly frustrating as its very luck based.

17. Raventala on 22 Jul 2008 at 10:54 am #

    I’m pretty sure BRK has said that he runs with IAotH and when he gets low on mana he switches aspects to Viper and chugs a Fel Mana pot…that’s how he rolls. You can all agree or disagree. To be saying someone or a guild fails, because they don’t do this or that is your opinion…if they are doing their part and downing bosses in end-game content…that is not a FAIL. That is pure win.

    Sure there may be other ways to do things…but just because it is YOUR way doesn’t make it the only way.

    Oh Yeah….Gratz BRK!!!!

18. Pike on 22 Jul 2008 at 11:00 am #

    @ Alaw - correct me if I’m wrong but it looks to me like he’s got the Fel Mana Pot debuff in the screenshot =P So I’m sure he’s using ‘em.

    @ The discussion - Myself, I have never been to content that high, but one of my solutions to a mana problem like that would probably be to make myself the Alchy Stone. I’ve been considering one as is, actually, because AotH is yummy and I pretty much refuse to use Viper in a raid/instance.

    @ BRK CONGRATS!

19. Rotseh on 22 Jul 2008 at 12:25 pm #

    Elixir of Demonslaying counts as a Battle Elixir, so you cannot use it in conjunction with a Flask or another Battle Elixir.

20. Stupid Mage on 22 Jul 2008 at 2:08 pm #

    Pure Awesome.
    Gratz on the kill =)

21. huntard4ever on 22 Jul 2008 at 6:41 pm #

    i hav a question……..

    WAT HAPPENED 2 ORCAPALOZA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! … did i spell that right

22. Paul on 23 Jul 2008 at 1:51 am #

    With a little bit of Shadow resistance this fight is a lootreaver. Not only can you resist the DoT, you can also resist the damage from explosion if you go oom during the DoT.

    we have all our mana uses equiped with the BT Atument neck, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32649 and the crafted Cape http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32420, with a sadow res enchant.

    I find that its more dangerous standing too close to that nub lock in the raid that going Oom as u will take AoE damage from them poping off Oom.

    Grats on some T5 AC! Its a pitty that Bliz didnt buff our gloves when they launched the sunwell badge loot.

    ;P

23. Sempai on 23 Jul 2008 at 10:54 am #

    Paul you are thinking of Kaz fight

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