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It’s Gotta Be Orange

BRK » 13 October 2008 » In Patch, Pets »

“Dear BRK, I gotta have an orange Core Hound from Molten Core. Hep meh! Love, old-school hunters everywhere.”

Dude! We totally understand your freakish desire to conquer that which smacked you down all those years ago. So we got one of our guildies to take his hunter-alt into Molten Core and write up how to grab an MCCH.

“I needed a healer to get this done at level 70. In S3/S4 gear, I have 11k unbuffed health, but having zero armor during the tame means you take a lot of damage. Since you’re not going to clear mobs, your only option is pretty much a Druid as they can stealth down with you. My buddy Jace respec’d from Feral to Resto to help me out. We tried it with him in his feral spec but he pulled healing aggro.”

I. Gear Up

A. Stamina food

B. Aspect of the Monkey

C. Track Beasts

II. Grab a Resto Druid

A. Spec Tree

B. Do not skip Subtelty

C. Heal as little as possible

From Jace, “I am a feral druid who rarely heals so I winged it. I didn’t have a spellcast order or strategy.” (Ed: We’ve raided with Jace from Attumen through Black Temple. You have no idea how accurate this statement is. )

III. Maneuvering

“As with just about everything else in life, preparation is probably the most important thing. If you can get past finding a resto druid, you can probably do everything else.”

“From the entrance, charge the two Giants standing guard, turn right and jump (at point 1).

“There are two possible outcomes, either are fine, but your goal is to land on the ledge.

“If you land on Terra Firma, make your way down the ledge towards the end. At point 2, there is an upper ledge and a lower ledge. You want to take the lower ledge, which is easy to pick out because it’s larger and flatter. Get close enough that you can pan your camera and look around.

“If you land in the lava, don’t panic. Just make your way towards point 3 and get out of the lava. You will be staring at the Fire Lord but you won’t aggro it. Get yourself healed up and burn your FD cool-down.

“Now using your Track Beasts locate the two Core Hounds that are following a path according to the red lines on the map. These paths are very long, and there is a long window where there is nothing in the hall at point 4.

“When you are confident that the coast is clear, drop down from the ledge or run out past the Fire Lord and Feign Death. If the Fire Lord spawns a baby just wait for it to despawn.”

IV. Taming

“I tamed the one coming up from the south because it was very easy to isolate him in the hallway heading to Gehennas.

“I dropped a Frost Trap to try and slow him down a little, but I don’t think it helped any.

“Jace loaded me up with HOTs (Heal Over Time) and re-stealthed.

“As the Core Hound charges up to you, unload on him. Aimed shot, steady shot, multi-shot. This is your one change to build aggro. If you don’t to it now, your healer will pull aggro and you’ll both die.

“Once I started the tame, Jace unstealthed behind him. When he stood next to me, he took the Core Hound’s Bite attack. We should have checked WoWWIki first, I’ll save you the trouble.

  • Normally hits a tank for 200 - 300 damage.
  • Frontal bite attack that will hit everyone in melee range in the front 180 degrees.
  • Long Range AE dealing about 800 fire damage.
  • In addition to this it will have one of six random debuffs:
    • Ground Stomp - 5 second stun.
    • Ancient Dread - Slow spell casting and melee speed by 50% (Curse, can be removed)
    • Ancient Despair - 3 seconds of confusion (Magic, can be removed, although generally no one resists to dispel it.)
    • 200 Fire resist Debuff (Magic, can be removed)
    • Withering Heat - Maximum hp reduced by 15% for 15 minutes (Magic, can be removed)
    • 50% less int/spirit - (Magic, can be removed)

“I honestly don’t know how to tell which one they have before you start, but I would imagine if you get a Ground Stomp you will have a very difficult time getting this done.

V. Showing Off

Introduce your new best friend to every warlock and mage you meet.

Patch, Pets | October 13, 2008

Comments

42 Responses to “It’s Gotta Be Orange”

  1. Fahr & Bacon on October 13th, 2008 10:31 am

    SWEET strategy/game plan. I’m gonna have to run this through, especially if all them T-Rexs are taken out of Un’Goro before I can get my hunter butt over there.

  2. zen on October 13th, 2008 10:48 am

    I did it a little different; soon as I zoned, I sent my gori out to grab the attention, and all the hatin’ from those fiery beasts, then I rushed a cross the bridge/crossing to the first banking corner and FD once my gori became monkey roast. The perculiar thing about this corner is that, at the edge facing the lava, there’s a downward slope, and if you standing on the slope (of course as far away from main road as possible) the beasts actually cannot see you! I confirmed this while waiting for the grey-line hound (hmm…greyhound? =P ) from your map to waltz up to me twice, each time no more than a inch or two from me; in fact so close to my hunter, i’m sure her pretty bloodelf hair was cinched a bit, or at least some nasty split ends. Anyway, back to story: upon sighting the hound for the 3rd time, i scootch about as far down the main road as i can without setting off the next yellow dot (which was a giant i believed), pop a frost trap and retreat back to my original position. I think i’ll have to agree with you that frost trap did no good, and I resort to Aspect of the Monkey, and decided to tank this one out. I had about 23k health starting, and by the time I finally tamed it I had, no joke, 157hp…. it was life and death.

    Picture of proof: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4066706&l=f912b&id=759750390
    (sorry for the facebook link… that’s my only portal for now)

  3. Anotherclown on October 13th, 2008 10:52 am

    Do the MC core hounds have the annoying camera shake when they walk? I’d prefer the original skin as well but the shake would make it a no go

  4. ~the1jeffy on October 13th, 2008 11:03 am

    Pro Druid Tip:

    Have the druid stack you up with HoTs, then switch to cat form and make a macro to cast Cower only. It’s not a great threat dump, but it’s better than nothing and will be getting a buff in 3.0.X

    If the druid doesn’t mind the re-spec costs have him/her take 5/5 in Furor and 3/3 Natural Shapeshifter to facilitate this. Withe the mana cost reduction and the instant energy generation this is a simple task.

    A geared resto will have no problems healing through those damage numbers, a secondary heal set might have longetivity issues. Anyway, hope this was helpful.

    Jephaer(Medivh), (Jalana is my hunter)

  5. Bob the goat on October 13th, 2008 11:18 am

    I plan on doing this with a healer and a tank. The tank starts tanking, I DPS as much as I can without pulling. The healer does nothing. When the tank dies I should have sufficient threat to keep aggro thru the healing.

  6. Fahr & Bacon on October 13th, 2008 11:31 am

    Great idea Bob. I don’t know if I’d let the tank die, but I like the idea of letting the threat get up there a long way and when the Hound turns to you, nail it with a concussive shot to give you an extra few ticks of taming before he starts using you as a new chew toy.

    I think any healer would work in that scenario certainly. Communication is certainly key still (planning), and the tank needs to just step back and watch you get chewed a while, but this has “win” written all over it my mind.

    Thanks for more ways to skin the cat …or tame a Core Hound.

  7. Goofball Jones on October 13th, 2008 12:42 pm

    Nice guide!

    Or you could do this: go tame The Kurken on Azuremyst Isle. It’s a white core-hound which (in my opinion) looks better than the green or orange core-hounds. It also has a pretty fast respawn timer.

    But that’s just me.

  8. Ihlos on October 13th, 2008 12:46 pm

    kudos for the amazing write up. Great place to send people wondering about this.

  9. Jamison on October 13th, 2008 1:03 pm

    You could probably do this with a priest as well since they can toss PoM up on you regularly to help build threat, and then keep fade on CD and stick to healing with Renew.

    Not so sure about a resto shammy on this one. Not a ton of threat mitigation outside of stoneclaw.

  10. Rua on October 13th, 2008 1:39 pm

    Well, with Tranquil Air Totem and Healing Grace, your Resto Shaman would be at -35%healy threat

    But the totem is of no help as it requires you to place it 20yards away and not hit the Hunter..

    imo, too much trouble considering all the Druids on my server =/

  11. Esdoc on October 13th, 2008 1:46 pm

    Tranquil Air doesn’t exist past 3.0.2 I believe.

    In stead of having a tank along and let him die why not just bring a Tenacity pet and abandon it when you have enogh threat on the doggy that your healer can safely keep you alive through the tame without grabbing healing aggro?

  12. Fahr & Bacon on October 13th, 2008 2:12 pm

    @ Esdoc - If you have a pet with you, you can’t tame another, if you abandon a pet while in an instance, it will disappear. I guess if you timed it right, AND you could abandon your pet while in combat, it may work. An interesting thought. If you do it, you HAVE to make a video to show. That would be a good use of game mechanics for sure.

    Let tenacity trash pet gain agro while you climb the threat ladder right behind it. You could even heal the pet to keep agro growing and pet alive longer. Dismiss met after a while, then tame Core Hound while the healer heals you. A nice idea. I’ve never tried to dismiss a pet while in combat. Anyone know if it works?

  13. Jageria on October 13th, 2008 3:22 pm

    Lifebloom from a Druid is great for getting agro on the hunter and not the druid. =)

  14. Jageria on October 13th, 2008 3:24 pm

    @ Fahr & Bacon - Yes, you can dismiss your pet while in combat. I do it all the time. However, if you dismiss your pet instead of abandoning it, you will not be able to tame another pet.

    @ BRK - No more editing of posts within in five minutes now?

  15. Esdoc on October 13th, 2008 3:49 pm

    Lifebloom, Prayer of Mending and their like will cause threat for the casting healer, not their target after the patch and abandoning pets can be done at any time as long as the pet is “present” - alive is optional.

  16. Kaylvand on October 13th, 2008 5:22 pm

    Abandoning pets in combat does work. I have done it before when trying to get hard to get pets.

  17. Pike on October 13th, 2008 7:45 pm

    Me & you BRK, we got a bone to pick with Molten Core.

    You know, with working pet threat mechanics.

  18. Kemonojin on October 13th, 2008 8:02 pm

    Anotherclown; Yes, even the midgetized core hounds still do the kettle drums and ground shake… They seem to have shrunk them again on the beta.

    Goofball Jones: I’d say it’s more a two headed wolf than a core hound (sleek muzzle and fur) instead of the craggy stone-looking core hounds… It uses the same skin as Omen from the Chinese New Year event in Moonglade. I named mine BadOmen. :D I like him better than the regular core hounds, myself.

  19. Jacemora on October 13th, 2008 9:54 pm

    @~the1jeffy

    Thanks for the cower tip, will try that when we go on live this week.

    I don’t think gear is the issue, my healing offset is T5 level.

    Anyway, we did it fine once we figured I couldn’t hang out in front or go healing spam crazy… omen wasn’t working and I don’t have the slightest clue where my agro might be when healing since I am Feral 99.9% of the time.

  20. Anonymous on October 13th, 2008 10:01 pm

    Can anyone confirm if Hibernate works on these big guys b/c if so profit

  21. Anotherclown on October 14th, 2008 1:04 am

    @Kemonojin: That bites, looks like I’ll be going with the ugly green skin since it seems to be the only one without screen shake :P

  22. hyena84 on October 14th, 2008 1:19 am

    something seem to have eatten my last comment (probubly the same thing thats makeing it skip letters and spaces every few words when i type >:| )
    would other hunters misdirecting onto you still help you keep aggro? if you can find em,bringing more then one healer to split heal aggro might help to.good luck to anyone who trys for the red ones…

  23. Kemonojin on October 14th, 2008 8:27 am

    Anonymous; everything else tamable has been hibernateable, but I haven’t tried it… no druid in my pocket. :-p

    Anotherclown: Bad news… the green one does it too. Or did last time I was on the test realm. Three of us had the full set, the red one, the green one (Uvuros himself), and I had the Kurken.

    Sounded like the percussion section of a brass band falling off a cliff…

  24. Brian on October 14th, 2008 10:34 am

    So, noob question…if you die in the Molten Core, and can’t be res’d inside by someone in your party, how do you run back to your corpse?

  25. Jiraiya on October 14th, 2008 11:53 am

    Anonymous here. Well as it just so happens I do have one so after I get home from work today I guess I’ll find out for my self and spread the word around. :-D

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  27. Kurasu on October 14th, 2008 6:47 pm

    Got a couple of ideas here for this one, actually.

    One: get a second hunter to ‘tank’ for you. When enough aggro’s been gotten, they can FD and thus dump all of it on you, just the way you want it.

    Secondly, and the more fun thought: get your healer as a paladin. When Mr. Tank has had enough, and you’ve got all the aggro you need, have the healer chuck a DI up on him. That’ll drop him from the aggro table and oh lookie! Edible hunter!

    Just my two bits here, of course. I’m a Survival Hunter, so I doubt these tips are going to come into it for me. :D

  28. Zalenna on October 14th, 2008 9:29 pm

    Well in the PTR , i tried it with a priestie , and just did a Power word Shield , healed me a lil after i shot a few hard hits in it ,
    and i was fine , the shield helped alot but after i played around with it , i wasnt liking it at all . the are better pets i could be getting the a massive CH

    i am a raiding BM hunter , i dont need a big pet in everyone’s way

  29. Vazhkatsi (errol) on October 14th, 2008 11:08 pm

    i admit, i’m only a 60 hunter right now, (1 xp from 61 hehehe) but i do have a 70 lock, and i know the game decently. anyway, i’m not sure about this, but i believe that if you bring a healing friend with you, an also 3 fellow hunters, they could each put up a misdirect to you, take their shots at the corehound using the highest threat shot available, and also possibly try that FD trick, you might have high enough aggro to make this work,

  30. Bloodarrow on October 15th, 2008 12:02 am

    We tamed 2 core hounds in one trip to the core. We made some changes to BRK’s guide, based on some testing we did the day before.

    We cast misdirect and pet pulled the Molten Giants from the bridge. We also stayed up on the ledge, and jumped down to the big bolder. The hunter tamed in the tunnel, just enough LoS for the Druid to get the job done.

    To avoid the core hound’s special attack we used haste potions. We didn’t get one fear or stun and tamed fast enough that aggro wasn’t a problem. Worth the 1g per potion.

    Check out our photos on my website.
    http://bloodarrowswowblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/core-hound-tamed.html

  31. Rauk on October 15th, 2008 1:01 am

    I just did this, based on your guide BRK. Thanks for posting it!

  32. Niall on October 15th, 2008 4:24 am

    Just got my new core hound. The Kurken. I thought it would be amusing for a horde hunter.

  33. Max on October 15th, 2008 5:18 am

    I took my Orc hunter to Azuremyst today to tame The Kurken. I waited patiently for it to spawn, set my trap and hit Tame Beast…and got a “Beast not tameable.” error. I fiddled around a bit to try and figure out what I’d done wrong, when a night elf came bouncing up and just started to tame it. Seems that he isn’t tameable by Horde, or there was a GM nearby that decided I didn’t need a Kurken :-P

  34. Toresh on October 15th, 2008 7:15 am

    Big thanks for the guide BRK. I new how to get in there but was un-sure of where to go when in there. I now has one.

    http://www.huntthis.net/?p=146

  35. Ansawa on October 15th, 2008 6:35 pm

    Weighing in as an experienced resto druid, your real friend here is Improved Tranquility. ;) That’s eight seconds of balls-to-the-wall healing with no threat whatsoever at the beginning of the tame.

    We just did this with me and my co-conspirator. He slapped on a bunch of +stamina cloth (since armor doesn’t matter during a tame), put on Monkey for the damage reduction, and started shooting the corepup once it got into range. I hugged the wall in tree with Shadowmeld up until it closed to melee, then popped tranquility.

    After that, I had more than enough wiggle-room to throw the rest of my HoTs to the end of the tame. Easy stuff.

  36. Skor on October 16th, 2008 4:36 am

    I was determined to get a real Core Hound from MC on my level 65 hunter, and that I did earlier today (or yesterday technically since it’s 4:30 am now). The group consisted of myself, another hunter, an elemental shaman, and an enhancement shaman. To pass the initial mobs, we aggroed the giants at the bridge, and then jumped down into the lava so they evaded and reset after a minute. Then we killed the two lava annihilators at the other side where we got out of the lava. It was here that I tamed the core hound (the one that walks up and stands on the ledge to the left for a few minutes).

    Now I only had between 4 and 5k hp, so I had to be spammed with heals to stay alive. Also, since I was only 65, I couldn’t get as much threat on the mob as a 70. This is where the other hunter came in - he MDed me to increase my threat, which helped a ton. My brother healed me on his elemental shaman, and I think the enhancement shaman helped too, though I didn’t really pay attention.

    I was very happy when the channeling completed and I had myself a pet core hound! I named him Magmadar. I had a lot of fun playing the rest of the day with this new and awesome pet, and I also received many compliments and questions like “omg where’d you get that pet?” A few people even thought that I had actually tamed Magmadar himself!

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  38. Stormchaser on October 16th, 2008 3:39 pm

    We did it a little differently. We cleared mobs first. :)

    It took 3 toons on 2 accounts. I was on my hunter on my main account and dual-boxed my healing priest. I had a warrior friend of mine come along with his high avoidance to tank.

    Giants at the entrance were no problem at all. Takes a little while to DPS, but the warrior takes almost no damage. The thing to watch out for is the knockback, as my priest got run at a couple of times before the warrior could get threat back.

    Hardest mobs to trio are the firelords. They take forever because of the spawns, but as long as you’ve got a healer with a decent mana pool it’s easy. My hunter just focused on the spawns and multishot added DPS to the FL. When spawns were up the warrior switched to the spawn and his multi-target damage would continue to DPS on the firelord. We had enough DPS between the 2 of us to kill the spawns and have about 2 seconds between.

    Annihilators are cake. Then you just wait for the core hound to come and play with you on the bridge. :)

    It’s fairly easy, but your tank needs to know what he’s doing. I’ve got enough experience dual-boxing to keep us both alive using macros on my healer, but a 3rd person would’ve been even better. We just couldn’t find an attuned healer online.

  39. Rannoch on October 16th, 2008 3:51 pm

    Thanks for the guide! After about 6hrs and 100 tries, I finally tamed this mother! Thx again

  40. Durana on October 18th, 2008 5:25 pm

    For thsoe wanting to 2 man tame, I’d like to poitn out my (mis)adventures in the core trying to tame my core hound. :)

    I brought along my holy-specced priest brother for heals on this run. If you jump onto the ledge at the south and wait there for a minute or so, the Giants will loose interest and de-aggro. They can’t seem to get down to the ledge, so they just stand at the side and look mornfully at you before going back to their original spot, grumbling about that damned sneaky hunter and his squishy friend.

    When it came to grabbing aggro, I piled up a lot of shots on him before I started to tame. Pulled with a Steady shot, popped rapid fire, pummeled him with instant cast shots and then finally a distracting shot before he got withing melee range. My Bro still got close to pulling aggro near the end of the tame. He was at about 90%

    Now, these hounds DO shake up the screen. But the ever wonderful Ghostcrawler has told us that the screen shaking will be removed come another patch. They’ll still be loud and stompy though. I personally don’t mind the shaking but I know it annoys the hell out a lot of other people. So, until this goes live, my Core Hound “Crucible” will remain stabled, dreaming happy puppy dreams (like mowing down Pallies in AV).

  41. Nefros on November 5th, 2008 11:38 am

    Mine:)

    http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot110508152151vx6.jpg

    Solotamed him today with only green gear and Staminafood. I used a trialchar to create a Raidgroup and get into MC.

  42. Nefros on November 5th, 2008 11:41 am

    Used this video as guide for the solotaming:

    http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=mpIxkYyqFHY

    Pulled him with scorpid Sting, used the Draenei HOT and a Haste Potion. No purple or blue gear, only alot of stamina. I had about 11k HP. After 2 tries he was mine:-))