Comments on: Argent Flargent, Give Us the Loot

By: Manly

Manly — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:28:25 +0000

Ahhh. good point about the +int giving RAP, I always forget that. This would mean the Argent Crusade leather boots only have 6 more RAP than the Dragon Slayer’s Sabatons (for instance)… before you add the 2 gems.

So, yes, I guess consider the leather boots if you are lacking +hit, but mail boots with more balanced stats will be better in the long run.

By: Brigwyn

Brigwyn — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:10:41 +0000

So thinking more about this gearing thing..
Everyone’s making a stink over the +Hit but it seems to be pretty much decided. The next theorcraft debate is starting to center around +Int vs. +Agi for gear choice.
We know that: +1 Agi = +1 RAP, 14 RAP = 1DPS, 14 Agi = 7% DPS (1/14 = .07)

If you have Careful Aim you get the following:
+1 Int = +1 RAP, 14 RAP = 1DPS, 14 Int = 7% Total DPS (1/14 = .07)

So that being the case, not only is the chest in question great because can directly adding in effect +68 Int + 8 All Stats = +72 Int = 72/14 = +5 DPS on it’s own. Add to this with Greater Intelect (Rank 7) that’ll scale to 132 Int/RAP or 9 DPS.

I know that’s not much.. but it’s starting to look like +Int REALLY needs to be reconsidered as a secondary spec…
Just a thought.

By: Brigwyn

Brigwyn — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:28:07 +0000

Fearstalker – Yep, that basically summarizes it.

And as for the fear of being hit starved? It only seems the casual’s may end up having that fear, because from what I’m hearing gear from Heroics for Alliance and Horde are providing enough +Hit.

By: Fearstalker

Fearstalker — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:11:52 +0000

and as noted elsewhere… FA is useless for a BM hunter, since your pet doesn’t get the bonus.

By: Fearstalker

Fearstalker — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:10:27 +0000

So, to summarize….

8% 263 (standard value for raiding)
7% 230 (standard value for heroics, or standard value for raiding with dranaei racial aura)
6% 197 (standard value for lvl 80 questing, or value for heroics with dranaei racial aura)
5% 164 (standard value for lvl 80 questing with dranaei racial aura)

By: Kapu

Kapu — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:09:38 +0000

I was curious about the boots as well.

Does BRK approve of them?

By: Nick S

Nick S — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:43:07 +0000

Speaking of Argent Crusade, what are the thoughts on:
Boots of the Neverending Path – http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44297

Good boots, just about Naxx-10 quality for Hunters. Mail will generally kick leather to the curb a lot more often, but if you’re hit-starved go for ‘em. Maybe slap Icewalker on those for a nice plug-in hit piece.

The +hit trinket dropped for me in the The Nexus last night, nobody else needed, and I didn’t think I needed that much more +hit so we DE’d.

Ouchie… how did no one at all need that trinket? It’s amazing! It’s even a great threat item for tanks.

By: Nick S

Nick S — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:37:49 +0000

Where there any Draenei’s in your raids? If so, that would give you a 9.03% hit.

I am a Troll; if there was a Draenei in my raid he was in disguise.

By: Manly

Manly — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:23:32 +0000

Speaking of Argent Crusade, what are the thoughts on:

Boots of the Neverending Path – http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44297

I’ve found most level 80 blue mail boots have 20’s for int, but less AP and AGI. Plus, this is a huge +hit bonus. If you don’t need the gem slots would this be worth consideration?

By: Brigwyn

Brigwyn — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:53:00 +0000

I am green with envy!! lol. Gratz BRK!!

As for the hit cap? I think we’ve all made up our minds. It’s 8%. Not just on the Target Dummies, but also proven with multiple Naxx bosses.

As one poster pointed out Focused Aim doesn’t work with pet hit, so yes it’s basically a wasted talent.

And as for BRK’s theory of stacking +Crit instead of being over the cap for Heroics… Smart Raiding!!!