However, on the flipside, we’re all kinds of /flail over the new Killshot change. Makes those of us with that 3/3 sniper training feel totally vindicated :3

In my mediocre heroic blues and a few pieces of 10man naxx, I’ve been getting 13k+ killshots.

What’s that you say? A shorter cooldown? Yes PLZ!!!

Good analysis but not great, steady shot nerf will be much more than 23.6% as the time passes and you get more AP and gear. it will go up to 50% or even more.

And I hope u dont forget about the pets nerf which I think will hurt us all. – And readiness not affecting BW is a major thing.

Conclusion – This patch will be not only BM hunters nightmare, but all hunters as well.

All the same, 1.7 to 2.0… much shorter compared to the entire BC championship for the BM tree.

I still stick by what I said before – SV shone way back when we have a LOT less players (and therefore, SLIGHTLY less elisits – I don’t enjoy them, either), and about 90% of the player population were born when BC came out (this is not serious. Don’t take the number seriously. I don’t know the exact numbers), and while BM ruled, MM isn’t too shabby. SV? Poor thing needs some lovin’.

So to me, BM have a long time to rule. MM got a decent amount of time to rule, but SV didn’t have a lot of rulin’ time.

(Personally? I’ll LOVE for MM to be the rulers, but I respect my fellow hunters, whether they be BM or SV.)

No. If anything, we need to get AWAY from making balance decisions based on PVP. It’s ruining the game as it is.

Hunter’s don’t heal or tank, so ultimately all 3 trees have to be about doing damage. Right now, Hunter’s do two things really well: leveling and PvE raiding. Both of those tasks are best done by a BM hunter specifically. So what area does the hunter not do all that well? PvP.

I looked up the statistics for the composition of +2000 rated arena teams a couple of months ago. From a hunter prospective, it was depressing. There was low hunter representation 2v2, 3v3 and 5v5.

If they nerf BM and buff SV and MM then we’ll all just switch spec’s in order to do exactly what we’re doing now, and we’ll STILL suck at PvP. I can live without PvP, but for those hunter’s who want to do it, I’d like to offer better advice than “roll a DK”.

In PVP what hunters need is the ability to get and stay at range, as well as more burst damage for BM hunters. We don’t need more keybinds for more melee abilities that will surely be convoluted or conditional, like raptor strike requires a melee swing before it can be used or the new deterrence requires you face the opponent. We need to be able to fire our weapons at point blank range and then escape, and we need to be able to auto-shot on the move, and that is something Blizzard will never give us because they do not want hunters to be viable in PVP. If they did, we would get useful set bonuses to our PVP gear, not 2 seconds off our traps, or 2 seconds off our useless tranquilizing shot, which is a joke compared to the 5 seconds off intercept warriors are getting.

This will hurt us in PVE also, particularly when it comes to getting slots in PUGs. I was in LFG the other night and there was a 4-man group in LFG specifically looking for DPS for Heroic Halls of Stone. It was late so it was just them and me in the queue, but they didn’t select me. Fifteen minutes passed and they still hadn’t selected me, but the instant a mage showed up in the queue, they grabbed him.They would rather wait an extra fifteen minutes to grab someone else than grab a hunter. I could see why they would want a mage over a hunter as frost nova rocks in that place, as it does everywhere, and our CC sucks and is too difficult and unreliable for most hunters to use effectively.

While it is way, way easier to get in PUGs now than it ever was in BC, a lot of the old “huntard” prejudice still remains and it will be a lot harder to get in groups when we are being our-DPSed by everyone, as we surely will with these nerfs.

My “vote” is to buff MM and SV with a PvP slant

No. If anything, we need to get AWAY from making balance decisions based on PVP. It’s ruining the game as it is.