I just want to point out that Freezing Trap procs LnL regardless if it effects the mob or not.

That said, on fights where you do not want to be anywhere near melee range (ex: Patchwerk), you can use Freezing Arrow to proc your LnL.

It isn’t the best method / rotation for this talent but its an alternative to getting into melee range when the fight isn’t ideal for such technique.

Should I be mashing the button endlessly, or should I actually time the shots on the cast bar before pressing the macro button again?

Please help

This post explains it better than I ever could.

@BRK

He’s not talking about macros in general, he’s about shot rotation macros. You know, what every serious hunter used in TBC because it offered an advantage over manual weaving.

That’s the difference. I’m pretty sure everyone uses at least some sort of macros (e.g. mount macro, MD macro, RF/CotW macro, etc), but going, as Relwin said, “I WANNA FACEROLL FOR DAMAGE HURRR” in wotlk is plain retarded.

“Another point with macros is that u actually can pay attention what going on as instead watching your buttonbar and cooldowns all the time to hit the shots at first opportunity.”

And yet another point: using macros for multiple shots frees up more space on your action bars for other frequently used abilities.

I have never used any shot macros myself, but now that I’m raiding seriously, I’m really beginning to see their use. As it stands now in 3.0.8, my uninterrupted all-out single-target rotation (e.g., on Patch) involves six different keys, seven if you count Hunter’s Mark. If I can consolidate SS/KS or BW/KC into single buttons, that’s not just two fewer buttons to pay attention to, that’s two more spaces on my action bar for other stuff. Three, if someone comes up with a viable KS/AS/SS macro.

LOL kiss-ass macro.

**whimper**

This is my main reason for personally liking macros. I prefer to watch my character, my team mates and my targets than watching my buttons cool down.
I realise it’s possible to mentally time your shots, count down and such, but you know, when I’m playing, I’m chatting with guildies, talking to my other half sitting beside me, doing things other than watching buttons.
Macros are accommodating.

It’s a fair point on watching your casters and healers. I can pump out pretty good DPS if that’s all I’m concerned with but I like to keep an eye on team mates too. Although the other side of that argument is that macros can bind you down while keeping everything separate gives you more freedom.

So who is helping the casters out now when they pull when now every hunter is rather watching his cooldowns instead of the action?

On another note i thought patches should make a game better not worse.

The macro system is a powerful and helpful tool for anyone to use as they see fit, and offers no advantage over those who choose to not use them. It’s there as personal choice and that choice has no bearing on anyone else.

Why, back in my day… *begin pre-BC Hunter raiding rant*”

That is amusing, for sure.
However:
I use macros because I DO have issues. I have MS and the fewer keys and combinations of keys I can use the better, because my fingers do not always hit simultaneously, or in the order I request. For just farming this is no problem, but I am thinking of starting to instance, and maybe even try raiding again…for that I do indeed need the macros.