Comments on: Hold Your Breath, Folks http://www.bigredkitty.net/2009/02/27/hold-your-breath-folks/ World of Warcraft Hunter Blog Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:59:36 -0600 hourly 1 By: Anonymous http://www.bigredkitty.net/2009/02/27/hold-your-breath-folks/comment-page-1/#comment-43485 Anonymous Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:49:37 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=3761#comment-43485 For all u numskull eager to kill the hunter dps once more : the screenie is either fake or a result of a bug-hotfix. Tried the BM unbuffed gives nothing more than 2k+800dps for the pet. I cant rly see how can u go from 2.8k unbuffed to 6.1k buffed. And dont start about my gear it cant be better atm. Good joke tho.... prolly a paly wants to nerf the hunters again....gg For all u numskull eager to kill the hunter dps once more : the screenie is either fake or a result of a bug-hotfix. Tried the BM unbuffed gives nothing more than 2k+800dps for the pet. I cant rly see how can u go from 2.8k unbuffed to 6.1k buffed. And dont start about my gear it cant be better atm. Good joke tho…. prolly a paly wants to nerf the hunters again….gg

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bigredkitty.net/2009/02/27/hold-your-breath-folks/comment-page-1/#comment-43476 Anonymous Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:29:32 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=3761#comment-43476 Good joke m8 , only problem is that this screenie is fixed and BM doesnt give anything more than 2-2.5k dps Good joke m8 , only problem is that this screenie is fixed and BM doesnt give anything more than 2-2.5k dps

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bigredkitty.net/2009/02/27/hold-your-breath-folks/comment-page-1/#comment-43249 Anonymous Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:03:12 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=3761#comment-43249 WHY IS EVERYONE TALKING ABOUT HOW HUNTERS ARE OP ALL THE TIME?!?!?!? THE DK WAS THE SAME DPS???!!!! OPEN UR EYES , OR IS IT THAT HUNTERS HAVE TO LIVE INT HE GUTTER ALL THE TIME? WHY IS EVERYONE TALKING ABOUT HOW HUNTERS ARE OP ALL THE TIME?!?!?!? THE DK WAS THE SAME DPS???!!!! OPEN UR EYES , OR IS IT THAT HUNTERS HAVE TO LIVE INT HE GUTTER ALL THE TIME?

]]> By: Anotherclown http://www.bigredkitty.net/2009/02/27/hold-your-breath-folks/comment-page-1/#comment-41708 Anotherclown Sat, 28 Feb 2009 04:50:53 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=3761#comment-41708 @truewanderer: small fix, Wild Hunt. it also may have been a quick fight and we all know how that skews dps figures @truewanderer: small fix, Wild Hunt.

it also may have been a quick fight and we all know how that skews dps figures

]]> By: Truewanderer http://www.bigredkitty.net/2009/02/27/hold-your-breath-folks/comment-page-1/#comment-41692 Truewanderer Sat, 28 Feb 2009 01:25:19 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=3761#comment-41692 To address several things- Firstly, I am talking about Wild Hunter the one of the new pet talents that gives for each rank a straight 20% extra scaling(aka 22.8% to 42.8% for just one point.), best case scenario I see them making it 10% per point worst case scenario I see them going with 20/40% of 22.8% which while a significant increase, pales in comparison. If you haven't been on the ptr or at least read up on all the hunter changes I'd appreciate not being unfairly called out. Second, while it is indeed a slim possibility that the hunter in question is the most talented and geared individual in his raid, I find the likelihood of this remote. The public test realm at this point is to a great extent filled with highly motivated, dedicated, talented folks who want to get an edge for upcoming content. The amount of immortal/undying/Twighlight/ect. on there is amazing. More than likely, and from my current experimentation on test dummys and the heroic VH I did, BM is at this point, OP. To me it is an odd assumption to say that Desmond is maxed out but his partners are in full blues or something, a 3k dps gap between 1st and 10 is gigantic. Last the problem with complaining about pet unfriendly fights is that there aren't that many at this point. Spider Wing-Anub is slightly dangerous but all you have to do is switch your pet to crypt lord on the movement. Plague- Okay Heigan is bad and on Loth you don't pick up the crit buff. Construct-Grobbulus is one but only if your tank is poor with movment. Military- just make sure to switch targets on Horse and your fine. Saphiron- minor, watch the blizzard. KT- If melee void zone called move your pet. Sarth- pet unfriendly but on zero or 1 drake its doable, working on 3 drake right now and I haven't figured it out yet, another pet unfriendly fight. So as a rundown Pet will die fights: Heigan, Sarth Pets could die: Grobbulus, KT Only if the hunter is dumb: Anub, 4 horse, Saph(heck and on this one your pet gets to dps during airphase) So of all the raids in Wrath thus far you should only lose your pet in 2/18 of them a rather low ratio. Blizzard tends to be quite kind towards pets by giving them high AoE avoidance and make many of their bosses special mechanisms not affect the pet. I can't imagine them upping pet dps that much when its a fire and forget mechanism(literally clicking go attack the boss once) for half the fights in Wrath. In Wrath thus far there To address several things- Firstly, I am talking about Wild Hunter the one of the new pet talents that gives for each rank a straight 20% extra scaling(aka 22.8% to 42.8% for just one point.), best case scenario I see them making it 10% per point worst case scenario I see them going with 20/40% of 22.8% which while a significant increase, pales in comparison. If you haven’t been on the ptr or at least read up on all the hunter changes I’d appreciate not being unfairly called out.

Second, while it is indeed a slim possibility that the hunter in question is the most talented and geared individual in his raid, I find the likelihood of this remote. The public test realm at this point is to a great extent filled with highly motivated, dedicated, talented folks who want to get an edge for upcoming content. The amount of immortal/undying/Twighlight/ect. on there is amazing. More than likely, and from my current experimentation on test dummys and the heroic VH I did, BM is at this point, OP. To me it is an odd assumption to say that Desmond is maxed out but his partners are in full blues or something, a 3k dps gap between 1st and 10 is gigantic.

Last the problem with complaining about pet unfriendly fights is that there aren’t that many at this point. Spider Wing-Anub is slightly dangerous but all you have to do is switch your pet to crypt lord on the movement. Plague- Okay Heigan is bad and on Loth you don’t pick up the crit buff. Construct-Grobbulus is one but only if your tank is poor with movment. Military- just make sure to switch targets on Horse and your fine. Saphiron- minor, watch the blizzard. KT- If melee void zone called move your pet. Sarth- pet unfriendly but on zero or 1 drake its doable, working on 3 drake right now and I haven’t figured it out yet, another pet unfriendly fight. So as a rundown
Pet will die fights: Heigan, Sarth
Pets could die: Grobbulus, KT
Only if the hunter is dumb: Anub, 4 horse, Saph(heck and on this one your pet gets to dps during airphase)

So of all the raids in Wrath thus far you should only lose your pet in 2/18 of them a rather low ratio. Blizzard tends to be quite kind towards pets by giving them high AoE avoidance and make many of their bosses special mechanisms not affect the pet. I can’t imagine them upping pet dps that much when its a fire and forget mechanism(literally clicking go attack the boss once) for half the fights in Wrath.

In Wrath thus far there

]]> By: Pet Changes in 3.1 | Thunderstomp, Furious Howl | HuntsmansLodge.com | A World of Warcraft Hunter Site http://www.bigredkitty.net/2009/02/27/hold-your-breath-folks/comment-page-1/#comment-41666 Pet Changes in 3.1 | Thunderstomp, Furious Howl | HuntsmansLodge.com | A World of Warcraft Hunter Site Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:35:11 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=3761#comment-41666 [...] Gorillas just got awesome for arena. Depending upon what they do with BM before the next patch (based on this post things are looking up), I may unleash Uhk'loc upon casters in the arena. With 5/5 Serpent's Swiftness, 2/2 Cobra Strikes [...] [...] Gorillas just got awesome for arena. Depending upon what they do with BM before the next patch (based on this post things are looking up), I may unleash Uhk’loc upon casters in the arena. With 5/5 Serpent’s Swiftness, 2/2 Cobra Strikes [...]

]]> By: Dhorvin http://www.bigredkitty.net/2009/02/27/hold-your-breath-folks/comment-page-1/#comment-41664 Dhorvin Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:32:25 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=3761#comment-41664 @Vedorian: Because the changes that are buffing BM so significantly have yet to actually make it into the patch notes. Mania has a nice round-up of all the pet changes: <a href="http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/02/26/ptr-31-early-round-up/#more-2497" rel="nofollow">http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/02/26/ptr-31-early-round-up/#more-2497</a> @Vedorian:

Because the changes that are buffing BM so significantly have yet to actually make it into the patch notes. Mania has a nice round-up of all the pet changes:

http://www.maniasarcania.com/2009/02/26/ptr-31-early-round-up/#more-2497

]]> By: Rikaku http://www.bigredkitty.net/2009/02/27/hold-your-breath-folks/comment-page-1/#comment-41663 Rikaku Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:17:00 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=3761#comment-41663 Vedorian: Because those two new top tier pet talents (namely, ferocity talents) that are aimed at the 51-point talent hunters only are adding a ton of pet dps, or so it seems. Vedorian:
Because those two new top tier pet talents (namely, ferocity talents) that are aimed at the 51-point talent hunters only are adding a ton of pet dps, or so it seems.

]]> By: Vedorian http://www.bigredkitty.net/2009/02/27/hold-your-breath-folks/comment-page-1/#comment-41662 Vedorian Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:51:04 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=3761#comment-41662 Please excuse my stupidity, but from all the patch notes I have seen, they hardly even touched anything to do with beast mastery right?? I mean why would the nubers be so different if in the patch notes there are nearly zero changes to BM? Please excuse my stupidity, but from all the patch notes I have seen, they hardly even touched anything to do with beast mastery right?? I mean why would the nubers be so different if in the patch notes there are nearly zero changes to BM?

]]> By: Eric http://www.bigredkitty.net/2009/02/27/hold-your-breath-folks/comment-page-1/#comment-41661 Eric Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:46:46 +0000 http://www.bigredkitty.net/?p=3761#comment-41661 I understand the whole-concept of the pet doing a lot of damage in a "Beast" master spec. The only problem I see with how it is right now is that in a basic 25 man naxx pug, you can afk and let the pet ps patchwerk and probably still come in on top 5 dps. That's the only problem I can see with it. An excellent MM or SV player will not be very far ahead of a terrible BM player since the pet is doing that much damage. I understand the whole-concept of the pet doing a lot of damage in a “Beast” master spec. The only problem I see with how it is right now is that in a basic 25 man naxx pug, you can afk and let the pet ps patchwerk and probably still come in on top 5 dps. That’s the only problem I can see with it.

An excellent MM or SV player will not be very far ahead of a terrible BM player since the pet is doing that much damage.

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